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Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by Lio on Thursday April 20, 2017 @06:03AM (#14155340)
Thinkpads are great but if I buy a Thinkpad T-series laptop I'm forced to buy Windows with it.

Also it's not supported by the manufacturer. Thinkpads have great support from the Linux community but Lenovo doesn't officially guarantee its use (I would be happy to hear if I'm wrong on that).

Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by ekianjo on Thursday April 20, 2017 @06:14AM (#14155396)
Dont they have a contract with RedHat to ensure compatibility?
Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by Hydraulix989 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @08:42AM (#14156097)
Yes, in my experience, the only thing that doesn't work is the fingerprint reader:

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Validity-Finge...

Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by cacarr on Thursday April 20, 2017 @06:41PM (#14161549)
Indeed. Everything works on my X1 Carbon running Arch (via Antergos), except the fingerprint reader.
Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by johndotsun on Thursday April 20, 2017 @05:46PM (#14161209)
Thinkpads are great if your standards for screen quality are incredibly low. I can't speak for the ones released in the last couple years but seemingly all of the older ones have garbage tier screens. My T430 has a screen that is at best about as good as the screen that came with my 2009 Asus netbook.
Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by clarry on Friday April 21, 2017 @06:11AM (#14164275)
My T460s definitely has a garbage tier screen. And garbage tier trackpad. The trackpoint feels like garbage too. And I had to replace the keyboard once because it was garbage and broke.
Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by kuschku on Thursday April 20, 2017 @08:59AM (#14156227)
You can buy Thinkpads also preloaded with free DOS. (Usually a lot cheaper)
Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by ac29 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:38AM (#14157614)
How? Hasn't been an option on the last 2 thinkpads I bought. Just went and tried to customize a T470 and nope, still have to get Windows.
Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by kuschku on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:19PM (#14158083)
If you're a student, you can sometimes still get it.
Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by vertex-four on Thursday April 20, 2017 @02:38PM (#14159497)
You probably can as a business customer? Not sure.
Re:System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house by bluehazed on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:26AM (#14157507)
You used to be able to, I don't think you can any longer.