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Re:H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms by azakai on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @08:24PM (#14144371)
Actually Google spends more on lobbying than Microsoft, and has for a while now.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3024945/major-tech-companies-...

Google spent almost twice as much as Microsoft in 2015, for example.

Re:H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms by inlinefordecade on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @08:28PM (#14144397)
It is good that other companies are catching up. But, MSFT got the AWICA and AC-21 acts passed decades ago, which directly resulted in indentured servitude. MSFT lobbyists are the founders and architects of the "indentured servitude".
Re:H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms by aanm1988 on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @09:14PM (#14144645)
I'm starting to find the "indentured servitude" thing really pretty irritating. Comparing being a highly paid tech worker with some issues changing jobs to an illegal form of (essentially) slavery is ridiculous.

I also don't really see how either act causes the problems you are describing.

Re:H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms by jordanb on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @02:00AM (#14145786)
Indentured Servitude is exactly the relationship that exists for many on H1-B. It's not even hyperbole.

This is especially true for people trying to get a green card. The employer can use the green card process to ensure the worker has no career mobility. And this process can take many years.

Interestingly it is NOT Tata/Infosys/WIPRO who are using the green card trick. They don't sponsor green cards. They just rotate people to and from the US and are very upfront about it. It's MSFT, Google, Apple, etc who are using the green card process to indenture their employees.

Re:H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms by aanm1988 on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @01:56PM (#14150023)
Indentured servitude was a system where you would enter into a basically unbreakable contract to work in exchange for passage to america (specific case, but general idea). Once you got here the captain of the ship would sell off the contract to whoever and that person basically owned you until it was done. You don't get to quit, they will have someone hunt you down and bring you back. You are not much more than a slave until you finish the contract.

There was good reasons why it was outlawed along with slavery in the 13th amendment.

Having to jump through some hoops to switch jobs, or having to leave the country if you quit/get fired is not nearly the same thing. Not even close.

Getting an I140 takes about a year, and you can transfer it after 180 days. Yes it takes a long time for Indians to get the actual card. That's not a result of companies trying to get you into servitude, it's a result of poor immigration policy and massive demand from India.

Re:H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms by taway_1212 on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @06:29AM (#14146743)
> Indentured Servitude is exactly the relationship that exists for many on H1-B. It's not even hyperbole.

It's far from being exactly the same. A H1B is free to break his contract and leave USA at any point, while IS was forced (i.e. hunted down and brought back to the workplace) to fulfill it.

Re:H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms by weirdstuff on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @09:44PM (#14144813)
Sure, you can be a highly paid, yet bonded worker. Much different from slavery. MUCH different.
Re:H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms by galkk on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @12:46PM (#14149176)
No idea what AWICA is, but AC-21, at least, is good thing for workers, because it allows to move between companies more easily.

disc: Work for Microsoft, run here from real body shop by using AC21 rule