Re:Steve Ballmer serves up a data trove about government spe...
by akinalci on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:53AM
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> but I'm very worried about what actually comes out of it given the media landscape
We've seen recently that some people believe what they want to believe, regardless of facts. This doesn't mean the rest of us should be deprived of facts, or that we should throw our hands up and give up on seeking the truth.
Re:Steve Ballmer serves up a data trove about government spe...
by taurath on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @02:24AM
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Not saying we should give up, but only saying that the truth doesn't matter unless the conditions for it to be useful exist. A Russian bureaucrat kicks your dog? It doesn't matter what the truth is if nothing can come of it.
Re:Steve Ballmer serves up a data trove about government spe...
by akinalci on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @06:30PM
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Access to the truth is perhaps the most basic prerequisite condition for it being useful. Once access is cut off, no other conditions matter.
Re:Steve Ballmer serves up a data trove about government spe...
by hackuser on Monday April 17, 2017 @11:39PM
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> even the CBO's reports are highly politicized
I'm pretty sure I've read about many CBO reports that disagreed with the party in power. What basis is there for saying they are highly politicized?
Re:Steve Ballmer serves up a data trove about government spe...
by taurath on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @01:56AM
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Not the reports themselves, the results from them. Its good data but doesn't "matter".
Re:Steve Ballmer serves up a data trove about government spe...
by kuyan on Monday April 17, 2017 @11:44PM
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> even the CBO's reports are highly politicized
Can you source that?
Re:Steve Ballmer serves up a data trove about government spe...
by MisterBastahrd on Monday April 17, 2017 @11:53PM
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I took it to mean "third parties politicize CBO reports" rather than "CBO reports are created with ideological slants," because, well, that's the truth of the matter. You can't criticize a CBO forecast for being slightly inaccurate when politicians decide to change the parameters after the fact.
Re:Steve Ballmer serves up a data trove about government spe...
by astronautjones on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:23AM
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I think you're correct, but it was poorly worded
Re:Steve Ballmer serves up a data trove about government spe...
by taurath on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @03:10AM
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Sorry about that, GP is correct with regard to my intent.
Re:Steve Ballmer serves up a data trove about government spe...
by nhebb on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @01:41AM
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CBO reports are done within the confines of the request, opening them up to a garbage in, garbage out scenario. The reports are supposed to be non-partisan, but a report request can be crafted in such a way that it's essentially weaponized non-partisanship.
If we can't start taking "real, true" data at face value and using it to drive actual policy again, this is just another drop in the bucket.