Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by akuma73 on Monday April 17, 2017 @02:49PM
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if you can power them, cool them, and connect them up in a useful way.
Good luck with that. Power costs go up linearly at best with cores if you don't have any more transistor scaling.
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by sbierwagen on Monday April 17, 2017 @03:35PM
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Power will always scale linearly with cores, of course, but you could make cores less power-hungry with reversible computing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_computing
Actually useful reversible logic is, as they say, an open problem.
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by akuma73 on Monday April 17, 2017 @03:41PM
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My point was that a new transistor shrink would give you lower power vs. the same transistor in previously larger node. You get more compute-per-watt with small transistors. If scaling stops, then all kinds of things get more difficult.
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by ZephyrP on Monday April 17, 2017 @05:29PM
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I have heard that Electrons move about a millimeter second (although electromagnetic emanations propagate at the speed of light). This is allegedly the benefit of 'optical' computing.
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by Animats on Monday April 17, 2017 @07:29PM
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Not quite.[1] Propagation in most interconnects is about half the speed of light, because real-world wires have capacitance. (As low as 25% for CAT 5 cable, as high as 90% for open-wire antenna feeds.) Optical fiber runs about 70% of the speed of light. On-chip interconnects run 30%-60% of the speed of light. So there's some propagation delay improvement with optical interconnects, but it's a factor of about 2, not some huge improvement.
[1] http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/all-aboard-/4426188/Rul...
Still, it's not like the physical size of semiconductors is the problem. A CPU today is maybe 100mm^2 of silicon. 4U of rack space can easily hold tens of thousands of CPUs, if you can power them, cool them, and connect them up in a useful way.