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Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance... by Animats on Monday April 17, 2017 @01:53PM (#14132961)
Atoms are too big, photons are too big, electrons are too big, and the speed of light is too slow. There's no longer plenty of room at the bottom.

Still, it's not like the physical size of semiconductors is the problem. A CPU today is maybe 100mm^2 of silicon. 4U of rack space can easily hold tens of thousands of CPUs, if you can power them, cool them, and connect them up in a useful way.

Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance... by akuma73 on Monday April 17, 2017 @02:49PM (#14133380)
if you can power them, cool them, and connect them up in a useful way.

Good luck with that. Power costs go up linearly at best with cores if you don't have any more transistor scaling.

Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance... by sbierwagen on Monday April 17, 2017 @03:35PM (#14133749)
Power will always scale linearly with cores, of course, but you could make cores less power-hungry with reversible computing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_computing

Actually useful reversible logic is, as they say, an open problem.

Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance... by akuma73 on Monday April 17, 2017 @03:41PM (#14133798)
My point was that a new transistor shrink would give you lower power vs. the same transistor in previously larger node. You get more compute-per-watt with small transistors. If scaling stops, then all kinds of things get more difficult.
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance... by ZephyrP on Monday April 17, 2017 @05:29PM (#14134572)
I have heard that Electrons move about a millimeter second (although electromagnetic emanations propagate at the speed of light). This is allegedly the benefit of 'optical' computing.
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance... by Animats on Monday April 17, 2017 @07:29PM (#14135338)
Not quite.[1] Propagation in most interconnects is about half the speed of light, because real-world wires have capacitance. (As low as 25% for CAT 5 cable, as high as 90% for open-wire antenna feeds.) Optical fiber runs about 70% of the speed of light. On-chip interconnects run 30%-60% of the speed of light. So there's some propagation delay improvement with optical interconnects, but it's a factor of about 2, not some huge improvement.

[1] http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/all-aboard-/4426188/Rul...