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Re:Leak Suggests NSA Was Deep in Middle East Banking System by 3131s on Monday April 17, 2017 @12:35AM (#14129239)
So your argument is essentially, "we created those agencies for that purpose, therefore it's ok what they're doing". You don't see how that doesn't actually follow?

> Spying on foreign powers

Foreign governments would be one thing (IMO still probably wrong, especially so if it's an ally), but US agencies are spying on all foreign citizens.

> Every single country is doing it to the US

Yeah, source please. And scale matters.

Re:Leak Suggests NSA Was Deep in Middle East Banking System by bigbugbag on Monday April 17, 2017 @06:03AM (#14130065)
>> Every single country is doing it to the US

>Yeah, source please. And scale matters.

I've seen the argument parroted around in the comments but it makes no sense. Bangladesh, Tanzania, Namibia, Laos, Cyprus, Rwanda, Haïti, Somalia just to name a few of the many who lack the resources to spy on a foreign superpower and have other more important priorities to deal with.

Somehow they also fail to understand that CIA and NSA were created in a specific historical (post-WW2 / cold war) context that has now expired. They have outlived their initial purposes and found other ways to justify their existences and budget since.