I want to avoid getting into a political spat on HN, but I think that reinforces my point that everybody is spying on and sabotaging each other regularly.

We're obviously on different ends of the political sphere but I try not to be too judgemental about it because I'm well aware that there's propaganda on all sides.

That said, a lot of US citizens, especially the flavor you find on HN are not big fans of the NSA either.