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Re:DeepBreath: Preventing angry emails with machine learning by nebabyte on Friday April 14, 2017 @03:24PM (#14116537)
That's a terrible example. He's talking about control and overrides; in that context, a red light is a literal counterexample of your point.

You can violate systems with overrides, and doing so might have consequences, but that's distinct from systems you can't override which was kemendo's point on our fear of where the control lies. (If tomorrow we decide to swap the meaning of red and green, that control is still humans'; the lights won't do anything about it.)

A self-driving car that locks up if you try and run a red would be an example, but as you didn't say that I'm guessing you just missed the point.

Re:DeepBreath: Preventing angry emails with machine learning by Danihan on Friday April 14, 2017 @03:32PM (#14116607)
A driver cannot control nor override a light -- they can't make it change quickly colors when an intersection is obviously empty. They can only ignore it entirely. That's different.

You wouldn't be "overriding" killer robots by hiding in underground tunnels. You'd just be avoiding them entirely.

My main argument though is that people's distrust comes from extrapolation of negative real life experiences, not just from the world of fiction.

Re:DeepBreath: Preventing angry emails with machine learning by nebabyte on Friday April 14, 2017 @05:07PM (#14117382)
> A driver cannot control nor override a light

You can rewire it or shoot it with a gun. It has no physical control over your actions.

That is the actual sense of the word "control" in a humans-vs-robots debate.