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Re:Mimicking an impact on Earth’s early atmosphere yields al... by mtdewcmu on Thursday April 13, 2017 @04:09PM (#14110507)
>> One of my points is that replication does not require a separate energy source, in the right environment. RNA is highly reactive given the right temperature and conditions,

I actually don't know what a flask full of RNA will do when left to its own devices. My science education has gaps. However, really basic chemistry says that you can't create big molecules from small molecules without some sort of energy gradient, because​ the big molecules have less entropy than the small ones.

When you have a flask full of stuff, what it does spontaneously is go to thermodynamic equilibrium. If you want a self-sustaining reaction that creates specific big molecules over and over, you need to keep adding energy.

Re:Mimicking an impact on Earth’s early atmosphere yields al... by TeMPOraL on Thursday April 13, 2017 @05:03PM (#14110906)
Fortunately, Earth is located near a huge fusion reactor, and comes equipped with its own auxiliary internal fission reactor. There was plenty of energy gradients in the environment then, the same way there are now.
Re:Mimicking an impact on Earth’s early atmosphere yields al... by ethbro on Thursday April 13, 2017 @06:59PM (#14111508)
Why isn't the following chain plausible?

Chemical compound soup, natural reactions -> natural reaction produces the first reaction which is self replicating (I'd assume RNA here) -> self replication reaction dominates natural reactions (to what order, who knows) -> self replicating reaction mutates into a form that better harnesses energy from environment (your metabolism) -> metabolic empowered reaction dominates -> etc

From a primatives perspective, it seems reasonable that the first "evolutionary" advances would have all been incredibly preferential. In the sense that they had no competition with similar capabilities.

Imagine the first organism able to metabolise something (sunlight?) for its own purposes. Against "organisms" that were still waiting for chance to bash them against the right compound.