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Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by Cthulhu_ on Thursday April 13, 2017 @07:06AM (#14105799)
Back in my day, we had a device that had a dedicated button for 'pause'. It worked using infrared, a simple invisible light system that doesn't need pairing or a wifi connection. The device (called a "remote control") could also run for years on a single AA battery, using little to no power when no buttons were pressed.

The downside was that it had a lot of buttons, 90% of which you don't use. It also tended to get lost a lot. And we didn't have Netflix, so either we'd have to use video tapes (which was cool, insert and hit play), or DVDs (which were a bit less usable, they usually had unskippable warnings, trailers, and some weird menu you had to get through before playing the movie / TV show). Or just watch what was on TV at the time, which worked just fine for us because we'd eat and go to bed at set times.

My tl;dr point is that things just used to be simpler and more usable. I don't like having to use an app to start stuff. I don't like the four remotes I have lying around atm either (TV, set-top box for digital television, one for the soundbar (idk why it's that big), and either a controller for the ps4 or for the apple TV. The latter two kinda fulfill the same role though, as a netflix machine.

Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by drivers99 on Thursday April 13, 2017 @09:37AM (#14106723)
Most devices that aren't Chromecast have a remote. (Roku, Apple TV, for example). I have no idea whether those would work with Google Home since I don't have one. I have a Chromecast and Echo Dot (Alexa) and they don't work together (nor Alexa and Apple TV). I'm guessing Amazon wants me to have a Fire device for TV and phone and tablet. For that matter, first party Apple apps on my phone (Apple Music) don't work with Chromecast, only AirPlay (to Apple TV). Of course YouTube on the phone, being a Google product, will only work with Chromecast. I can ask Alexa to stream from my Audible or Amazon Music Unlimited accounts (when I had it temporarily), but not Apple Music (and I assume not Google's music service). It sucks that all these services mostly refuse to work with each other. There is some overlap, such as YouTube app on Apple TV, but using the YouTube app on the phone is a lot more usable (even with their confusing UI).

I should probably stick with free software and non-DRM content.

Having said a that, I do use the Echo Dot to do hands free timers (like when I'm cooking), calculations in general and for cooking ("Alexa how many tablespoons are in a quarter cup"), look up definitions of words (while I'm sitting on the couch reading a book), and my kids ask it how to spell things. (The only reason I have one is I got it for free at AWS re:Invent conference.)

Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by cylinder on Thursday April 13, 2017 @07:33AM (#14105915)
I have no interest in these smart home devices and I'm not a Luddite. These things just complicate life. Just like my fancy new dishwasher which thinks it's a good idea to beep constantly once my dishes finish washing at 1am.
Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by HelloMcFly on Thursday April 13, 2017 @07:41AM (#14105959)
If it complicates your life, it's a bad device. My Echo does not do that, but that's probably because I only have a limited number of things I really want it to do, and it does them just fine.
Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by teh_klev on Thursday April 13, 2017 @09:04AM (#14106440)
My sodding washing machine does this after completing a washing programme and there's no way to disable it. Seriously, does the manufacturer think I'm going to completely forget I needed clean clothes and bedding for the week?

I also notice my new microwave sits there and keeps chirping at me after heating food until I open the door, it's not as loud and as insistent as the washing machine, but still totally unnecessary behaviour.

A more sensitive soul could eventually be driven bonkers if every flippin' thing in your house and car beeped and booped at you every minute of the day.

Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by malza on Thursday April 13, 2017 @10:10AM (#14107026)
I always buy appliances that are mid-to-lower range. There's none of the over engineered smart technology and they last decades rather than years.

I think once you've spent enough time submerged in technology, you start to appreciate the simpler things in life. A smart washing machine or microwave isn't one of them.

Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by cylinder on Thursday April 13, 2017 @11:28AM (#14107794)
I didn't buy these appliances (rental), my last apartment had basic analog appliances. They're so much better. I really do not need digital inputs on my appliances. I definitely do not need WiFi or smartphone control!
Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by IanCal on Thursday April 13, 2017 @09:46AM (#14106802)
A small technical point here, but with HDMI CEC you can use your regular remote for pausing chromecasted stuff. I use the remote typically for pause / play / volume, and my phone to pick what to watch (also the phone app has a handy "go back 30s" button).

For me, these smart hubs won't be particularly useful until I can combine a bunch of functionality into one thing. I have the heating set to come on in the morning, but our morning schedule is irregular so I have to adjust it most evenings to come on a bit before we wake. Then I set the lights to come on, as I find it easier to get up when it's light, and set an alarm. What I want is just to say "wake me up at 5:30 tomorrow" and have all that just work.

The individual things (alarm, light and heating) are all individually beneficial though, despite the evenings faff. This is also only a minor problem too, these are not daily herculean tasks I barely make it through, but it's still a level of hassle I'd like to smooth over.

Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by marcosdumay on Thursday April 13, 2017 @11:49AM (#14108027)
I have a PC plugged on my TV. I can browse local or cloud (Netflix, Youtube, TED, whatever) collections with the TV remote, get things to play, stop, whatever. When I want to do something more complex that would be too time consuming with a remote (not common), there's a wireless keyboard that stays on a drawer.

You can still make things simple and easy. What we are seeing is a complete lack of trying. Probably because those companies just love to have an always listening microphone inside your home, 1984 style.

Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by PhasmaFelis on Thursday April 13, 2017 @01:34PM (#14109118)
Certainly there's nothing an Echo or whatever can do that you can't do with any properly-set-up PC or phone. The Echo just does it faster and hands-free. It's not life-changing or revolutionary, but it is handy.
Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by kstenerud on Thursday April 13, 2017 @08:09AM (#14106084)
I have two remotes: One to turn the TV on and off or change the volume, and another, much smaller one to control my Android box running KODI. I just re-used the Amazon fire TV stick remote. Works great! 7 buttons.

Simple and usable is still possible, but you have to do your homework.

Re:Burger King ‘O.K. Google’ Ad Doesn’t Seem O.K. With Google by Tactic on Thursday April 13, 2017 @10:15AM (#14107076)
If you want to get that down to "one" check out Sideclicks[1]. A small universal remote that attaches to the fire TV stick remote. Not associated, just a user that appreciates not having to keep track of multiple remotes.

[1] = https://www.sideclickremotes.com