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Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by Asdfbla on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @07:56AM (#14096759)
It's very telling and somewhat disappointing that the Deutsche Post (not a traditional car maker) can get a fleet of electric cars up and running while traditional German automotive industry is still delaying as long as possible, showing off futuristic (and ugly) design studies instead of putting electric cars on the road.
Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by usrusr on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @09:18AM (#14097333)
But it's made by the German automotive industry, just not designed and assembled by any of the existing front-end brands. The underlying component supplier network (and workforce skill pool) is the same. Tapping into that network might be difficult if you are some nameless, shaky startup, but if you are DHL they will be very willing to talk to you.
Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by germanier on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @11:02AM (#14098306)
Understanding this is key to getting the German automative industry (or even the whole German economy). Your shiny new car model needs cylindrical fasteners (just as all do)? There is a company with 350 employees that does only that and can deliver just on time. Same with any other little component in a car.
Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by 205guy on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @04:48PM (#14101596)
I came to make a similar comment. Look at what Tesla had to do to manufacture in California (partner with old factory owner, get tons of federal loans), and they were lucky there was an old car factory in the Bay Area, it would never be sited there nowadays due to real-estate value. Maybe it would've been easier for them in Michigan, not sure. Or look at the Nissan Leaf, US models built in Tennesssee I believe, but had to be done by an established brand who retooled one of their factories.

By comparison, Germany seems to be the Shenzen of tooling and manufacture, enabling a start-up to build a niche electric vehicle such as this.

Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by kuschku on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @08:03AM (#14096784)
All the German carmakers have the tech to produce them, that’s not the problem.

But there’s no demand for an electric car that costs 5 times as much as an equivalent gasoline car (VW up! is 7'000€, e-up! is 35'000€)

Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by adrianN on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @08:41AM (#14097047)
Apparently the Post has a sufficiently big demand, as do other European delivery agencies.
Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by rhodin on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @12:31PM (#14099257)
StreetScooter started as a research project at the RWTH Aachen University, spun out as a startup, and was later acquired by Deutsche Post[1]. Hoping Germany can produce more such startups!

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StreetScooter

Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by jpm_sd on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @12:11PM (#14099055)
Similarly, can you imagine the USPS ever doing something like this?
Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by Retric on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @12:52PM (#14099452)
The USPS wants one vehicle so it needs a much longer range. The Grumman LLV was specifically designed for the United States Postal Service with Grumman winning the contract for production... Approximately 140,000 LLVs are in the USPS delivery fleet.[6][7] A number were also sold to Canada, Mexico, and several other countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_LLV On September 22, 2016, the United States Postal Service awarded the NGDV Prototype Contract to six selected suppliers: AM General, Karsan, Mahindra, Oshkosh, Utilimaster, and VT Hackney. Half of the prototypes will feature hybrid and new technologies, including alternative fuel capabilities. The prototypes will represent a variety of vehicle sizes and drive configurations, in addition to advanced powertrains and a range of hybrid technologies.[16]

Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by hackermailman on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @12:56PM (#14099506)
The old LLVs were finally retired in Canada a few years ago due to spontaneously catching fire[1] but lasted 28yrs of heavy service.

[1]http://postalnews.com/blog/category/llv-fires/

Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by photojosh on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @08:28PM (#14103000)
That's the kind of thinking that leads to the JSF/F-35. :)
Re:Deutsche Post expands StreetScooter production by Retric on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @11:10PM (#14103837)
Sometimes, but economies of scale are moreover noticeable when you make 100,000+ of something than 200+.

I would say go electric, but with N optional and easily replaceable battery packs. So, routs that need 50 mile range get that and you can scale to 100, 150 etc, or add an extra pack when range starts to drop etc. This also lets you keep a motor pool of being repaired without needing an extra of each model.