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Re:IndieHackers.com acquired by Stripe by geofft on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @02:43PM (#14091106)
Speaking as a random HN user (but I suspect I am not alone in this opinion), I rather dislike HN's approach to anti-vote-manipulation, and so I don't see the message as disappointing.

(If anything, vote manipulation / growth hacking is perfectly within the HN mindset: there's this entrenched organization that controls access for no other reason than that they got entrenched, and people are finding innovative technical means to get past the policies.)

Re:IndieHackers.com acquired by Stripe by pault on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @02:50PM (#14091185)
What? No, the "entrenched organization" that regulates voting rings exists to keep HN from turning into a morass of marketing puff. The quality of the submissions and comments are literally the only thing of value here.
Re:IndieHackers.com acquired by Stripe by geofft on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @03:17PM (#14091447)
You can do that by restricting voting to established users with nonzero karma, which HN already does. If a bunch of people who are providing the high-quality submissions and comments say a particular submission is high-quality, what are the grounds for doubting them?
Re:IndieHackers.com acquired by Stripe by pault on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @03:33PM (#14091611)
It is not difficult to farm accounts for voting rings, and there is a significant financial incentive to do so. It's true that there may be some false positives, but without these protections the floodgates would be opened to startup marketing goons.