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Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by tdb7893 on Monday April 10, 2017 @03:40PM (#14081871)
at least for room and board you aren't required to actually atay at the university, most people I knew lived off-campus
Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by abalashov on Monday April 10, 2017 @06:47PM (#14083246)
Yes, but living off-campus isn't free either. That may get one out of hiked room/board/meal plan fees, but not out of the basic obstacle of affordability that stops many low-income people from going to college. Total cost of attendance can be prohibitive with or without tuition.

Yeah, there are more ways around it. One can work part-time. But my experience is that this is all a bit mythologised and represents a kind of superhuman best-case scenario.

Admittedly, I'm biased as a native Russian (in US since early childhood). In our part of the world, making school and university-age children work is still often regarded as a kind of violation of their human rights. "They need to learn financial responsibility" doesn't resonate strongly in cultures without this national folklore of individual self-reliance.

However, as far as I can tell, "working through college" isn't as easy as it's made out to be. In the real world, a good chunk of the kids that have to work enough alongside school to actually _support_ themselves (housing, food, necessities), rather than just earn some discretionary "spending money", don't end up doing well in school, for obvious reasons of nonlinear tradeoffs in human activities. After a 6-hour shift on my feet at the pizza joint, I'm probably going to want to come home and veg, not soar to the snow-capped summits of my survey of Western intellectual history until 2 AM ...

Being in tech, I got so engrossed in my work I dropped out to pursue my (at the time) meteorically ascendant career! :-) But that's a different — and decidedly luxurious — problem.

Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by eganist on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:02PM (#14082048)
That can easily change. Tons of universities require students to live n years on campus.
Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by linkregister on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:20PM (#14082180)
Are there any public universities that require this?
Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by eganist on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:48PM (#14082404)
https://www.virginia.edu/housing/faq.php

> All First Year students are required to live in on-Grounds

http://housing.vt.edu/contracts/apply/first_year_students.ht...

> All incoming first-year students are guaranteed, and required to live in, on-campus housing for their first year;

And that's just Virginia.

Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by eu90h on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:29PM (#14082237)
I went to a public university that required students to live on campus until their junior year.
Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by linkregister on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:31PM (#14082247)
Where?
Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by usea on Monday April 10, 2017 @05:29PM (#14082722)
Louisiana.

http://www.uno.edu/housing/residency-requirement.aspx

Other schools in system have a similar policy.

Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by Spivak on Monday April 10, 2017 @07:08PM (#14083359)
Ohio State requires it for two years and it's about as big and public as you can get.
Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by eli_gottlieb on Monday April 10, 2017 @11:14PM (#14084553)
UMass Amherst required it of freshmen and sophomores when I was there in 2007-2011.
Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by eon1 on Monday April 10, 2017 @08:26PM (#14083790)
Weird. What practical purpose does this serve?

Do we know what lead to this policy becoming commonplace?

Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by vinay427 on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @01:40AM (#14085132)
As an on-campus student I didn't know any off-campus students except one who went to my high school, and he didn't have many new friends from university that he kept in touch with. It is difficult to overestimate the social aspect of universities, which has led in part to other changes such as a common core curriculum for all undergraduates, for instance.

I'm not claiming that students should live on campus, but there are clear advantages if they do so to both those students and other on-campus students.

Re:New York Becomes Only State to Offer Free Four-Year College by abalashov on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @01:58AM (#14085213)
In theory, the argument is that it creates initialisation conditions of greater social and academic engagement that increases the likelihood of staying in college and completing a degree. The idea is that clueless freshmen who have never lived independently before and are unleashed for the first time will just get lost to the party if you set them loose off campus. This way they are given some structure and discipline during their first year or two in college, ideally creating a healthier template they more likely to adhere to in some measure even after they move off-campus.

Practically, it's more likely just a revenue measure...