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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by plandis on Monday April 10, 2017 @12:29PM (#14079918)
Lenovo has the best laptops? Is spyware a good thing now?
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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by interfixus on Monday April 10, 2017 @01:09PM (#14080414)
Someone recently gifted me a ThinkPad. It is hands down the most awesomely satisfying piece of computing equipment I have ever owned.

Of course, I wouldn't dream of running this or any other real computer with a pre-installed OS.

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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by VT_Drew on Monday April 10, 2017 @03:45PM (#14081907)
Doesn't matter if you re-install the OS. They spyware was baked into the BIOS.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/12/lenovo_firmware_nas...

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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by interfixus on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:07PM (#14082072)
I do not reinstall "the OS".

One charm of this ThinkPad is it works superbly with some Arch Linux on it.

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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by VT_Drew on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:42PM (#14082354)
>I do not reinstall "the OS".

>it works superbly with some Arch Linux on it.

These 2 statements contradict each other. Either you reinstall the OS (OK maybe you didn't technically REinstall, but most people would call installing a different OS "reinstalling the OS") or you still running the default OS.

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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by interfixus on Monday April 10, 2017 @06:13PM (#14083007)
Installing a different OS is not 'reinstalling'

The BIOS thing was specifically targeted at Windows installations, a thing I havn't bothered with since the previous millenium.

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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by glogla on Monday April 10, 2017 @01:30PM (#14080685)
If only thinkpads had non-rubbish screens and touchpads. Actually, I could probably learn to use the nub, whatever. Just give me reasonable screens on something under 2000 USD.
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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by nunez on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @08:24AM (#14087009)
Really? Which one? I've used the T450, one of the W series ones and an X1 Carbon, and neither of them were very satisfying
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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by interfixus on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @01:05PM (#14090058)
It says T440p on the cover.

I am clearly not representative of anything. I was given a MacBook at work once, and forced to use it. I hated that shitmachine with a passion.

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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by nunez on Saturday April 15, 2017 @04:54PM (#14122808)
Oh, wow; why?
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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by VT_Drew on Monday April 10, 2017 @12:38PM (#14080015)
I read that too. Lenovo the top spot? Aaaand we are done here. I am not going to trust any "review"/"ranking" system that doesn't put Lenovo dead last. They were caught 2 times preloading spyware/malware on their machines.
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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by Noctix on Monday April 10, 2017 @12:30PM (#14079935)
IIRC, the Thinkpad line was not affected, and wasn't it a external partner that planted the rootkit?
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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by citruspi on Monday April 10, 2017 @12:42PM (#14080045)
> the Thinkpad line was not affected

Correct.

> wasn't it a external partner that planted the rootkit?

Nope. The first time it was 3rd party software, Superfish, but Lenovo installed it and installed a self-signing root certificate authority to MITM the traffic[0]. The second time it was Lenovo's own software, Lenovo Service Engine, which they also installed themselves[1].

[0]: http://www.zdnet.com/article/superfish-stop-using-your-lenov...

[1]: http://www.zdnet.com/article/lenovo-rootkit-ensured-its-soft...

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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by lukas099 on Monday April 10, 2017 @12:39PM (#14080022)
Even if so, it reflects poorly on Lenovo.
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Re:Apple drops to fifth place in laptop brand survey by Karliss on Monday April 10, 2017 @01:14PM (#14080495)
Dell shiped laptops with custom root certificate that had private key available.
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