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Re:Uber said to use “sophisticated” software to defraud driv... by Retric on Thursday April 06, 2017 @05:05PM (#14054603)
Which only works if they are employed by Uber, if they can't be independent consultants unless they have freedom to select their route.
Re:Uber said to use “sophisticated” software to defraud driv... by linkregister on Thursday April 06, 2017 @05:26PM (#14054790)
Drivers have no obligation to stick to a particular route. The ride can be refunded if the route is egregiously long or indirect. Even then, if there is a valid reason (traffic, road closure) the ride can be upheld.

If riders are quoted a longer than optimal route, then that appears to be deceptive to me.

Re:Uber said to use “sophisticated” software to defraud driv... by Retric on Thursday April 06, 2017 @05:36PM (#14054854)
If they can take someone from A to B and then not get paid for it because of that kind of rule in how the task is preformed that's highly directed work of the kind you would give an employee.
Re:Uber said to use “sophisticated” software to defraud driv... by linkregister on Thursday April 06, 2017 @08:22PM (#14055970)
Please take a step back and think about it.

If you contracted me to install cabinets in your kitchen, I couldn't defensibly take 1 year to install them, if I estimated 3 days. This doesn't make all cabinet installers employees.

Re:Uber said to use “sophisticated” software to defraud driv... by Retric on Thursday April 06, 2017 @08:52PM (#14056130)
3 days or 4 days and you still pay. Uber can't offord a 33% increase in trip length when paying per mile so defacto they are going to have very tight tolerances.

Further the scoring is separately done by the customer. So the conversation is "Can you take the scenic trip? Sorry can't." Further it goes that way because Uber drivers are employed by Uber not independent contractors connected by Uber to customers.

Re:Uber said to use “sophisticated” software to defraud driv... by linkregister on Sunday April 09, 2017 @03:27AM (#14070941)
I think you interpret "egregious" differently than I do. You appear to be responding to a set of points I never made, while not addressing the one I did.
Re:Uber said to use “sophisticated” software to defraud driv... by inverse_pi on Thursday April 06, 2017 @05:17PM (#14054713)
Why is that? If I have a job and I know exactly how I want it's done then I can't hire a contractor?
Re:Uber said to use “sophisticated” software to defraud driv... by Retric on Thursday April 06, 2017 @05:22PM (#14054752)
The general rule for Contractors is could they hand the work to a 3rd party, though the actual test gets complex. https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc762.html

Basically if you want a sink replaced you can define what the sink will look like and function etc but not which tools they use to fix it. When someone is providing core business functions for a year+ receiving constant directions for short term tasks has direct customer interactions thus representing your business etc they just don't have much wiggle room.

Re:Uber said to use “sophisticated” software to defraud driv... by SilasX on Thursday April 06, 2017 @06:03PM (#14055088)
Which is an argument about their employment status, not the alleged fraud issue in the story.