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Re:John Gruber jumps the shark by Lewisham on Friday June 04, 2010 @01:51PM (#1405036)
> Why should Apple be responsible for making sure their Safari promotion showcase works perfectly in every other browser?

Because the whole point of the exercise is to show how standards-compliant, open, web apps work so great on iPhone OS. Except by excluding every browser but Safari, it may as well be a front for the App Store. It might be standards-compliant, but it sure as heck isn't open or inclusive. In that regard, even Flash runs in more browsers than this showcase does.

Re:John Gruber jumps the shark by NormM on Friday June 04, 2010 @03:49PM (#1405420)
It seems to me that these are really WebKit demos, which is the defacto standard for mobile browsing. Historically, I think that standards have caught up with practice on the Web, rather than the other way around.
Re:John Gruber jumps the shark by jacobolus on Friday June 04, 2010 @02:47PM (#1405207)
I don’t think that’s actually the point of the exercise, from Apple’s perspective. (Even though they use “openness” and so on as buzzwords.)

Instead, as far as I can tell, the primary point is to promote Safari and prove that Flash is unneeded to make pretty neat graphics/interactive thingums.

Opera is maybe justified in being miffed if Apple can get traction off the back of using “open” and “HTML5” as buzzwords, but I really don’t think the primary audience for this showcase knows or cares much one way or the other what HTML5 really means.

Re:John Gruber jumps the shark by tptacek on Friday June 04, 2010 @02:53PM (#1405226)
Why are you irritated that Apple is making it hard for Firefox and Chrome users to see an advertisement for HTML5?
Re:John Gruber jumps the shark by zygen on Friday June 04, 2010 @03:59PM (#1405459)
> The demos below show how Apple’s Safari web browser supports the capabilities of web standards such as HTML5, CSS3, and JavaScript.

Just sayin.

Re:John Gruber jumps the shark by foljs on Friday June 04, 2010 @08:04PM (#1405999)
Actually, Safari is the only actual browser allowed on the iPhone/iPad. Also, it IS open/inclusive. Anyone can code his web app for the iPhone/iPad, and they have to target Safari, but they can code anything the want and bypass the App Store.

("Opera for the iPhone" is using a mediator service, and as such is not a real web browser).