What makes us Red Hat

Re:What makes us Red Hat by dhemmerling on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @01:55PM (#14044071)

This is a pretty timely statement of values and development ideology apropos Canonical's sudden pivot from fragmenting the Linux desktop community.

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Re:What makes us Red Hat by koffiezet on Monday April 10, 2017 @06:44AM (#14077374)

Having used linux for over 20 years now - the 'fragmenting the Linux desktop' idea boggles my mind.

The entire Linux eco-system exists of competing things. Nginx vs Apache, sendmail vs qmail vs postfix, ... the list goes on. There is no singular 'desktop' when it comes to Linux, and there will never be one. Thinking and hoping there will be is simply not understanding what drives the whole Linux world: options and competition.

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Re:What makes us Red Hat by tux1968 on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @02:23PM (#14044330)

What are you referring to?

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Re:What makes us Red Hat by dhemmerling on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @02:36PM (#14044435)

Ditching Unity + Mir, and returning to Gnome. Convergence is good. https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cl...

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Re:What makes us Red Hat by houst0n_ on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @03:34PM (#14044870)

Canonical are ditching Mir? I must have missed this one. Was this discussed here?

Page won't load for me but my first thought was this was a poor taste April fools ;)

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Re:What makes us Red Hat by keithpeter on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @04:00PM (#14045075)

"I’m writing to let you know that we will end our investment in Unity8, the phone and convergence shell. We will shift our default Ubuntu desktop back to GNOME for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS."

I checked the date of the post really carefully as well. That is certainly a change of direction.

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Re:What makes us Red Hat by houst0n_ on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @04:06PM (#14045120)

I guess unity was the only thing driving Mir then? Is dropping one the same as dropping both?

Seems like good news to me, having a significant player like canonical contributing to the community instead of fragmenting without much benefit can't be bad can it?

I don't use it on the desktop anyway, but I hope that moves in this direction are rewarded by the community.

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Re:What makes us Red Hat by keithpeter on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @04:44PM (#14045449)

My (limited) understanding is that Gnome includes Wayland as an integral component, and so reverting to Gnome as default desktop for 18.04 will preclude use of the Mir graphical server.

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Re:What makes us Red Hat by snuxoll on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @06:33PM (#14046284)

Also, one of the "selling points" of Mir was its ability to use Android drivers to make OEM adoption of Ubuntu Phone relatively easy.

If they're ditching mobile, there's literally no real benefit to Mir.

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Re:What makes us Red Hat by houst0n_ on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @03:54PM (#14045033)

Found it:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14043631

Can't find a cached version of the actual ubuntu article though.

Edit: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_6qrnN...

No mention of mir though?

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Re:What makes us Red Hat by a3n on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @03:54PM (#14045035)

Huh. Maybe I'll move back upstream to Ubuntu. Although at this point LinuxMint works fine for me, so it's hard to see a compelling reason. But Ubuntu's desktop games are what finally drove me out, as a desktop.

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