Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence

Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by AdmiralAsshat on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @01:53PM (#14044052)

GNOME has been doing some really cool stuff as of late (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/top-features-in-gnome-3-2...). I'm still using Cinnamon, because I still like the look a bit more, but it's getting harder to ignore all of the excellent features GNOME provides, including: - Drive support for file manager - Gmail/Outlook support for GNOME accounts and built-in calendars - Working Wayland implementation

I'm holding out at the moment, as it's missing one feature from Cinnamon that I really like (the ability to launch and control any audio player from the sound icon in the tray), but when Fedora 26 launches I may finally have to switch over.

I hope that Canonical shifting back to GNOME will further its development under Wayland and not spend a crapload of time doing more work for Mir.

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by kleiba on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @03:22PM (#14044772)

GNOME has been doing some really cool stuff as of late (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/top-features-in-gnome-3-2...).

Do you really think that? To me, this is just a collection of really old stuff and features that should be a matter of course.

Case in point: "the headline feature" (adjusting the color temperature of your display depending on the time of day) is something that has been around for years one way or the other on all operating systems.

Or take: "Bookmarking webpages in Web now takes a single click." Hasn't that been the case since, like, always? Even if I'm wrong, I would hardly file such a feature under "really cool stuff".

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by AdmiralAsshat on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @03:50PM (#14045003)

Case in point: "the headline feature" (adjusting the color temperature of your display depending on the time of day) is something that has been around for years one way or the other on all operating systems.

But not in Wayland. I'm happily using Redshift in Cinnamon (one of the other things keeping me on Cinnamon), but the fact remains that having it built into the distro makes it more readily accessible to everyone.

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by unethical_ban on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @05:59PM (#14046024)

Yeah, and redshift has been available on Linux for a long time. Now it's built in the OS.

Windows 10 doesn't have that. What's your point?

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by jbicha on Thursday April 06, 2017 @01:37PM (#14052696)

Windows 10 will have it next week in the Creators Update. Android has it in 7 "Nougat" but most Android users don't have that version yet. It seems to me like GNOME was right on time.

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by int_19h on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @08:16PM (#14046886)

Win10 doesn't have it out of the box, but third-party software that implements it (like f.lux) has been available for a very long time.

(Also, FWIW, Win10 insider builds do have it out of the box.)

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by lvillani on Thursday April 06, 2017 @02:28AM (#14048392)

Third party software has been available on Linux distributions for a long time all the same.

Shipping this feature out of the box with an OS install started happening only recently (e.g. Night Shift came to iOS only 1 year ago, Windows 10 is getting it just now, AOSP has a "secret" knob to turn it on and it's enabled in 3rd party ROMs, etc).

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by jhasse on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @02:08PM (#14044210)

Check out https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/55/media-player-indic...

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by AdmiralAsshat on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @03:15PM (#14044720)

It looks like it needs to be hard-coded for compatibility with every app, which makes it not so friendly. Wouldn't work with the unofficial Google Music Desktop Player (https://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com/), for instance, which I use heavily.

EDIT: Nevermind, this ticket looks like it might: https://github.com/MarshallOfSound/Google-Play-Music-Desktop...

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by jhasse on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @03:24PM (#14044782)

Ah that's pity. I'm using it for Rhythmbox and Spotify where it works fine.

> It looks like it needs to be hard-coded for compatibility with every app

By using a white-list? I thought it worked with every app which uses the MPRIS DBus interface.

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by johnny22 on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @05:42PM (#14045903)

i had though it relied on MPRIS :(

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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by mlvskmvd on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @02:23PM (#14044327)

If you can shell script you might be able to build that extension your self:

https://github.com/p-e-w/argos

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