The VA hospital example is an interesting one. I was at a town hall with Lindsey Graham where he used it as an argument against universal public healthcare. And clearly, no one wants universal public healthcare to be like the VA system -- where there are a limited number of understaffed government-run hospitals, and you get no choice as to your doctors.

But the interesting thing is that absolutely no one is proposing that; what's being proposed is Medicare-for-all, where you get your choice of providers (pretty much any existing provider), and you pay the government for low-overhead insurance through your taxes.

It's kind of a really obvious rhetorical bait and switch, but it seems to resonate with people.