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Re:Every attempt to manage academia makes it worse by arjie on Monday April 03, 2017 @10:31AM (#14023003)
This may not be true. Let's take the case of Stephen Smale. An incredibly smart man who would go on to win a Fields Medal. And yet, without someone providing the structure within which to work and without an external motivation, a mildly mediocre graduate student.

All the credit for his work goes to him, of course. But one can easily imagine him completely flaming out with a different department head and advisor.

It is precisely because people are not cogs that managers can either be a force multiplier or an unmitigated disaster.

EDIT: on rereading, that guy isn't saying all management is like this but that his hypothesis explains certain managers. All right. That makes my comment a non-sequitur.

Re:Every attempt to manage academia makes it worse by eastWestMath on Monday April 03, 2017 @10:36AM (#14023030)
But that was the result were two academics recognizing a diamond in the rough. An MBA-type concerned with metrics would never even have accepted him for graduate studies.
Re:Every attempt to manage academia makes it worse by arjie on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:21AM (#14023408)
That's fair. I'll accept my punishment.
Re:Every attempt to manage academia makes it worse by ygaf on Monday April 03, 2017 @02:55PM (#14025914)
Some of the most interesting posts happen by accident.