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Re:The Weirdness of CRISPR by SCHiM on Sunday April 02, 2017 @06:58PM (#14019511)
Can somebody explain what exactly the problem is with this? Did they not have a hand in any of the research? Do they provide a genuinely useful service yes/no?
Re:The Weirdness of CRISPR by jfarlow on Sunday April 02, 2017 @08:41PM (#14019890)
MPEG LA is a for profit firm that has historically specialized in getting huge corporations in a room, the patents surrounding a technology all of them need, and getting them to agree on a standard code to be licensed to everyone: Apple, Cisco, Dolby, Fujitsu, HP, Hitachi, MS, NTT, Panasonic, Samsung, Sony, etc.

They have no biomedical or biochemical expertise. They have no hand whatsoever in discovering or understanding any science at all. It now appears as though they would like to try to get another group of mega-companies in a room to cross license their patents on Cas9 variants - there are as many (natural) variants as there are bacteria out there, and there are a combinatorially large number of synthetic variants on top of those. The Berkeley/MIT faceoff you've likely heard about in the news is over a very broad patent on using Cas9 therapeutically, but the space of natural Cas9 variants is actually broader still than even that patent could cover.

We as a country need to have a conversation about patents and how the policies that work for computer code may not be the same policies that work for small molecules, which may not be the same processes that work for genetically encoded materials. Each of those technologies are all extreme in terms of the cost of R&D, verifiability, producibility, reproducibilty, and longevity. It is difficult to shoehorn each of these technologies into the same patent framework.

Re:The Weirdness of CRISPR by DannyBee on Sunday April 02, 2017 @09:18PM (#14020009)
"MPEG LA is a for profit firm that has historically specialized in getting huge corporations in a room, the patents surrounding a technology all of them need, and getting them to agree on a standard code to be licensed to everyone: Apple, Cisco, Dolby, Fujitsu, HP, Hitachi, MS, NTT, Panasonic, Samsung, Sony, etc. "

That's very kind. They also historically have done everything they can to keep the pool alive by evergreening it, and allowing companies to evergreen it. They also have done pretty much everything they aren't supposed to since the original BRL the DOJ sent (https://www.justice.gov/atr/response-trustees-columbia-unive...)

Re:The Weirdness of CRISPR by pmoriarty on Monday April 03, 2017 @12:40AM (#14020629)
"We as a country need to have a conversation about patents..."

People keep saying this about whole host of issues, and it makes me wonder if that's ever happened about anything. Have Americans ever "had a conversation" about any issue and decided anything collectively like that?

Re:The Weirdness of CRISPR by quakeguy on Sunday April 02, 2017 @08:14PM (#14019816)
They want to earn money, nothing more. No knowledge is gained, no wisdom is earned here. Just plain old money interests at work. Some call it capitalism, i call it greed.
Re:The Weirdness of CRISPR by SolarNet on Sunday April 02, 2017 @09:38PM (#14020084)
Actually it's called rent-seeking and many capitalists would also call it bad (namely stemming from the failures of the patent system).
Re:The Weirdness of CRISPR by Turing_Machine on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:06PM (#14029198)
Such organizations free up people like Jennifer Doudna to spend time in their labs (i.e., their area of expertise) rather than spending time sitting in meetings with lawyers and similar krill from companies that want to license the technology.

How is that not a valuable service?

Re:The Weirdness of CRISPR by monochromatic on Monday April 03, 2017 @09:37AM (#14022636)
If they're buying up patents, they're enriching the people who are making these inventions.