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Re:Unpaired Image-to-Image Translation using Cycle-Consisten... by dahart on Saturday April 01, 2017 @11:49AM (#14012661)
> The typical paper seems to run along the lines of "We tried this, and it worked".

This sounds like science to me, is "we tried this, and it worked" something to shy away from for some reason? Of course, it's super important to publish "we tried this, and it didn't work." But that's another topic altogether...

If less math really is a trend, do you see it as a bad thing? You didn't state it strongly, but you've hinted at that, and it seems like the replies assume that's what you're suggesting.

I love math and mathy papers, and I would still welcome a trend toward less math in papers in return for more effort spent on making simple ideas plain and easily understood. But academics don't always operate that way. Math in papers is often used to obscure simple ideas, sometimes on purpose, and sometimes it's an indicator that the author doesn't understand the domain clearly enough but still wants to sound smart. Sometimes a paper really requires dense math, but not very often. Dense math almost always makes a paper more difficult to reproduce. Either way it is harder for even experts to evaluate the quality of dense math than of expository writing that strives for simplicity and clarity.

Neural networks are really simple math under the hood, well understood algorithms and simple linear algebra, why not write great papers that work and don't re-hash the math but instead focus on clarity, reproducibility and results?

Re:Unpaired Image-to-Image Translation using Cycle-Consisten... by soVeryTired on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @09:00AM (#14032074)
I agree with everything you've said. But my suspicion is that there's less maths in the papers because no-one knows how to use it to analyse neural networks properly.

That means current research is operating via trial and error. One man's trial and error is another's blind search. Without maths to point researchers in the right direction, neural net research could easily hit a wall once the low-hanging fruit has been picked.