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Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by bluGill on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @12:46PM (#13988088)
Depends on a lot of factors. There is no engine oil, so the first scheduled maintenance will probably be the cabin airfilter (20000 miles in every car I've had that has one), and I would guess that anything in the suspension that needs grease will get the same interval (many cars have nothing to grease today but it is a possibility). Then there are tires.

Brake pads should last a little longer, but I'm not sure how much.

Ultimately though I believe electric cars will be much more expensive in the long run. Nissan wants $5499 for a new battery back. I don't know of any study on how long they last, but reading forums and extrapolating I would say you should plan on replacing the battery pack every 100000 miles. This of course depends greatly on how your charge it which in turn depends on how far you drive. If you drive the full range of the battery every charge you probably need to replace the battery every 50000 miles. If you make dozens of short trips per day, charging after each, you could potentially get several hundred thousand miles.

I'm curious about your A4 experience - how many miles were you driving. Unless you are driving 80,000 miles a year I don't see how you can get that high - at 80,000 miles/ year you have timing belt service. If you are driving this many miles the VW diesels (same base platform as the A4, though less luxury) can probably pay for the entire car including maintenance just in fuel savings.

Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by jessewmc on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @01:14PM (#13988438)
A4s (and to a slightly lesser extent all other Audis) have been, up until very recently, among the most unreliable new vehicles for sale since the model's inception.

Combine that with expensive Audi parts, expensive and zealous dealership labour, and they are unbelievably expensive to maintain.

I own a 2006 that I bought for a song--I do my own service, so I was willing to take a bit of risk. The cars are very difficult to work on, even an oil change involves special tools and working around a poorly laid out engine bay. It takes me twice as long to do as any other car I've done.

The previous owner of my car put 120,000km on it. I only have the last 50,000km or so of records, but in that time it was towed to the dealer at least twice according to the service records, and she spent upwards of $10,000 on regular service ($250 oil changes? yep) and fixing broken stuff that shouldn't break at that mileage (turbo blowoff valve, ignition coils on more than one occasion, brake lines, the list goes on). She spent over $1000 on every trip to the dealer in that time.

I do not understand anyone who buys a new Audi, or for that matter any German car. It's ridiculous.

Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by amenghra on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @01:56PM (#13988864)
Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by woodpanel on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @05:58PM (#13990994)
A smear piece. While condemning the whole of BMW engineering the author is putting more effort to use the words "sht" and "fck" than he is to disclaim even once transparently that all of his "experiences" are based on cars that were 20 years or older at the time.
Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by sf_rob on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @01:23PM (#13988525)
Tesla's batteries appear to be holding up very well to cycling degradation (batteries also degrade with time so there hasn't been as much of a span to evaluate how that factors in to the real world). 92% at 100k miles.

https://electrek.co/2016/06/06/tesla-model-s-battery-pack-da...

Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by Retric on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @01:01PM (#13988287)
There is a large difference between charging from 70-100% regularly vs 5%-100% regularly. However, while the battery pack seems like a maintenance issue, it's really a question of fuel. In most places your saving 5+k on gas to refuel with electricity, so getting a 5k bill to replace your battery just means there is no real fuel savings.
Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by sithadmin on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @01:24PM (#13988538)
>If you are driving this many miles the VW diesels (same base platform as the A4, though less luxury) can probably pay for the entire car including maintenance just in fuel savings.

The only VW in the same platform (B) as the A4 is the Passat, and there's a lot less shared components between the A4 and Passat than there are for platform A models.

Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by MrFantastic on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @01:38PM (#13988699)
Car batteries have value to provide peak power backups for electric companies.