Rootless containers feature merged into runC

Re:Rootless containers feature merged into runC by minimaxir on Monday March 27, 2017 @05:50PM (#13972126)

A semi off-topic note:

As shown in the linked thread, this Hacker News submission was promoted via an image of the submitted link in /newest. This is a modern form of vote manipulation (although in this case perhaps unintentionally) which seems to be the rage nowadays, especially on a certain other social-voting website. (The content of the submission is good/important regardless, but others should keep in mind that this form of voting manipulation isn't clever)

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Re:Rootless containers feature merged into runC by advisedwang on Monday March 27, 2017 @05:52PM (#13972143)

I'm not sure I understand how this is vote manipulation? Surely they are just replying to the "somebody should post this to HN" comment by showing that they did? Why does an image get illegitimate votes?

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Re:Rootless containers feature merged into runC by minimaxir on Monday March 27, 2017 @05:54PM (#13972159)

Posting an image makes it obvious what to upvote. (as opposed to replying "I posted on Hacker News")

But even then that would technically be vote manipulation because it's drawing attention to an immature submission. (and there is little genuine reason to do so. The only counterexample I can think of is using HN as a comments section)

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Re:Rootless containers feature merged into runC by eriknstr on Monday March 27, 2017 @06:48PM (#13972527)

There were 15 participants in the GitHub issue. Hardly enough people to manipulate anything, so obviously that was not the intention. Even though some 300 people are watching the repo as a whole I doubt that many of them would see that particular comment. As the parent to your comment said, a screenshot is a reasonable way to inform the others in the thread that the link has been posted.

I am against vote-manipulation of course but I don't think that this is an instance of it.

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Re:Rootless containers feature merged into runC by MichaelBurge on Monday March 27, 2017 @08:25PM (#13972967)

This thread has 71 points in 3 hours. Having 15 people upvote it all at once could get it onto the front page, where it then keep getting upvoted naturally.

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Re:Rootless containers feature merged into runC by marcosnils on Monday March 27, 2017 @06:02PM (#13972228)

@minimaxir OP here. I don't really understand why / how this is vote manipulation, and I also wouldn't care either. I'm not a regular HN user. Wouldn't be the same to just reply to the thread by just sharing the thread link?. Just thought that sharing the image would generate a nice impact.

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Re:Rootless containers feature merged into runC by minimaxir on Monday March 27, 2017 @06:10PM (#13972273)

> Wouldn't be the same to just reply to the thread by just sharing the thread link?.

That is still against the HN rules, and it downweights votes made through direct links for those reasons. (highlighting a submission without using a direct link is the primary voting manipulation game on the said other site, and there have been some unique innovations)

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Re:Rootless containers feature merged into runC by sp332 on Tuesday March 28, 2017 @09:49AM (#13976518)

The only rule is against asking people to upvote you. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html Letting people know that your link is on HN is not against the rules. Hackernews-button didn't get any comments from mods. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5782081 Neither did hn-button. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5782081 (PG did say he was afraid this kind of thing would have negative effects, but that was 5 years ago and no rule change since. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2934178 )

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