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Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by dang on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:15PM (#13969646)
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13969262 and marked it off-topic.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by emilypi on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:20PM (#13969707)
1. Heat is not the same thing as passion. It's possible to be passionate, but still run into problems when discussing technology with people who are so convinced of their correctness that there is no actual debate taking place. This happens much of the time with younger devs coming out of college who are, for instance, absolutely convinced that the best way to do [x] is to use [y] technology or [z] paradigm.

As a senior dev on a team of scala/haskell programmers, we see this often. Speaking over someone is not the same as being passionate. People speak over women all the time - I have been on the receiving end of it from devs fresh out of college as someone who's published papers.

2. They were talking biological imperatives. Women's ability to have children dies at ~40. If they want to have kids, they need to get on it. No one said anything about women being only mothers and men being only breadwinners.

Reading you're comments, I'm supposing you're probably the redpill type.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by dang on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:30PM (#13969833)
> I'm supposing you're probably the redpill type

Please steer clear of personal attacks. This direction leads nowhere good.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by oconnor663 on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:06PM (#13969532)
> can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen

If you feel like being controversial, at least do everyone the courtesy of responding to the most obvious counter arguments ahead of time. We all know what they are, and no one wants to rehash the same stuff over and over, unless we're going to hear something new.

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Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by dang on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:17PM (#13969668)
Posting inflammatory or snarky comments on divisive topics ends up turning threads into flamewars. That's effectively trolling even if you don't intend it to be, so please don't comment this way on HN.

Comments should become more civil and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Then we avoid the downward spiral into internet hell.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by Merad on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:18PM (#13969683)
> can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Women should be just as passionate about the work.

If you enjoy being an ass, at least have the decency to be honest about it and own it instead of pretending that it's "passion".

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by st3v3r on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:19PM (#13969697)
"(1) can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Women should be just as passionate about the work."

Being aggressive is not being passionate. Don't confuse the two.

If you can't get your point across without being aggressive or mean, then you have no business making it.