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Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by awjr on Sunday March 26, 2017 @03:33PM (#13962679)
1) If you have to buy an electric vehicle.

2) Go vegetarian. (Avoid beef if you can't and eat meat less).

3) Stop buying stuff.

4) Repair not replace.

5) Move to an urban environment.

6) Consider going car free. (Walk, Bike, Public Transport, Car clubs).

7) Stop flying.

8) Avoid plastic packaging, or at least any product in packaging that cannot be locally recycled. (Here in the UK I have no idea why we allow food to be supplied in black plastic which most councils do not recycle).

9) If you have to have children, just have one. Choose schools they can walk/bike to.

10) Insulate (cheap) and solar (expensive) your home.

11) Buy local goods.

12) Join recycling groups https://www.freecycle.org/

Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by diafygi on Sunday March 26, 2017 @03:54PM (#13962830)
0) Work for a cleantech company.

The thing many people here don't realize is that they can make real money fighting climate change. See my other comment in this thread for links to the major conferences with lists of cleantech companies that are hiring.

Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by madengr on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:18PM (#13962997)
13) Kill yourself, preferably in a place where you will decompose into top soil.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by stinkytaco on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:11PM (#13962951)
This list should be called "things upper-middle class people can do about climate change." It's all good advice, but so few people can do these things. Either the cost, time, or economic reality stand in the way of productive solutions. Because of this, climate change is an international political problem, one that will require so many unpopular solutions that I'm extremely pessimistic about the outcome.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by dagss on Sunday March 26, 2017 @03:43PM (#13962740)
0) Vote for politicians who care about climate change.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by the_economist on Sunday March 26, 2017 @03:51PM (#13962811)
I haven't seen many politicians campaigning for nuclear power, and you can't deal with CO2 emissions without that (base load problem, etc), so that's pretty hard to do.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by dagss on Sunday March 26, 2017 @03:59PM (#13962861)
First step is just agreeing there is a problem and put it on top of the agenda though. Politicians are supposed to set goals and find incentives; the "how" part (batteries vs. hydro vs. new tech for power storage vs. nuclear) can be more up to the market. A politician who is scared of climate change will at least be easier to convince to approve a new nuclear plant in (relative) silence even if they are not actively campaigning on it as a solution. And properly taxing emissions will make nuclear plants more competitive, again without a politician having to explicitly aim for it or campaign for it.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by toomuchtodo on Sunday March 26, 2017 @03:49PM (#13962800)
Reminder: 2018 US congress midterms are approaching
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by tradersam on Sunday March 26, 2017 @03:51PM (#13962810)
In a year and a half. Approaching, but not immediate unfortunately.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by ohbecause on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:03PM (#13962893)
5) Move to an urban environment

Are you serious? If I go and buy an acre of land (or many acres, more likely) and grow my own food, keep a few animals, and trade with my neighbours, how the hell does "move to an urban environment" make me suddenly more efficient? So I can rely on the supply chain to get all the goods that I could get by walking down the street to another farm?

Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by exergy on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:20PM (#13963010)
IF you can buy an acre, please definitely do so. That will do more to help than almost anything else. On the other hand, the typical 2.5 kid family in Suburbia that drives even to the grocery store? They're better off moving to the city.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by detaro on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:07PM (#13962918)
That's also an option, but most people living outside core urban areas don't do that, and adopting such a lifestyle probably is the harder choice for many.

Instead, they drive a lot, because everything (stores, work) is far away, and the infrastructure created for them is relatively inefficient. Very few people and regions are supplied locally, and not by large-scale, large-distance supply chains, rural or urban.

Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by baddox on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:26PM (#13963059)
I would be quite surprised if growing your own food at small scale is more environmentally friendly than living in an urban area and consuming food that was produced and transported at massive scale.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by macawfish on Sunday March 26, 2017 @07:37PM (#13964033)
Depends on what kind of growing your doing. There are a lot of agriculture styles that use very little resources and are economically affordable. If you're doing row-style monoculture, then you really can't compete with those economies of scale (and subsidies). But permaculture has huge yields for the amount of input it requires. Cultivating fruit trees and perennials in a plant "guild" can produce resilient, long term food sources with little upkeep. You could easily grow enough food for yourself on an acre.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by ohbecause on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:05PM (#13962909)
Why is this being downvoted?
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by JBReefer on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:46PM (#13963183)
Because there's not 7.5 billion acres of arable land that's also got good, stable water access.

Also, because someone living in a major city produces dramatically less carbon due to economies of scale, and your idea would result in an incredibly low density, offsetting any gains to food shipping cost.

Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by avip on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:05PM (#13962907)
9.5) don't have pets.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by Banthum on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:19PM (#13963001)
Regarding 9), if you're reading this you should have as many children as possible. Your high-IQ genes will be passed on to them; only the intelligent of the next generation will have the foresight and technical ability to develop real (technological) solutions to environmental problems.

It's pretty well-demonstrated that the moralistic approach to climate change, where you harangue people into recycling or biking or whatever, doesn't work. It's just trimming around the edges, leaving the core 95% of the problem untouched. People won't give up their lifestyles, and in the case of poor third-worlders it's hard to ask them to do that anyway.

If climate change is stopped, it'll be by technological solutions.

There's <10% of the world population who will be endowed with the genetic gifts to participate in this process of technical solution-making. Your kids will be among them. Make some kids.

Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by jcoffland on Sunday March 26, 2017 @04:47PM (#13963186)
It's troubling that you believe your genetics are responsible for economic success and education.
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by TeMPOraL on Monday March 27, 2017 @04:22AM (#13965982)
IQ is strongly hereditary and is pretty well correlated with economic success, so I don't see how this is troubling...
Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by jcoffland on Monday March 27, 2017 @04:51AM (#13966081)
> IQ is strongly hereditary and is pretty well correlated with economic success

Can you back up these claims? I don't think either is obviously true. IQ tests themselves have dubious value.

Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by jcoffland on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:20PM (#13969713)
From the Wikipedia page:

> A study (1999) by Capron and Duyme of French children adopted between the ages of four and six examined the influence of socioeconomic status (SES). The children's IQs initially averaged 77, putting them near retardation. Most were abused or neglected as infants, then shunted from one foster home or institution to the next. Nine years later after adoption, when they were on average 14 years old, they retook the IQ tests, and all of them did better. The amount they improved was directly related to the adopting family's socioeconomic status. "Children adopted by farmers and laborers had average IQ scores of 85.5; those placed with middle-class families had average scores of 92. The average IQ scores of youngsters placed in well-to-do homes climbed more than 20 points, to 98."

This demonstrates quite clearly that high socioeconomic status causes high IQ scores, not the other way around.

Your other source is the Pumpkin Person who's blog is titled "The psychology of horror" and writes about horror movies. Does not appear credible.

Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by Banthum on Monday March 27, 2017 @06:09PM (#13972269)
That results indicates that if you take children and go from "abused or neglected as infants, then shunted from one foster home or institution to the next" to a stable adopted family home, you can increase IQ scores.

Which is pretty obvious. There is always an amount of abuse that will destroy someone's IQ. Bringing them back to a decent middle-class upbringing will restore them to their baseline.

But once that baseline is achieved, evidence is that it can't generally be improved. One can learn skills and knowledge but IQ is stable. Above lower-middle class American abuse-free households, increases in SES don't affect IQ.

E.g. People have inherent talent at sprinting. Malnutrition or abuse can destroy this talent. But once people have decent upbringing, and try hard, and have support, what determines the champion is genetics. Which is why pretty much all champion sprinters have west African ancestry (since they have inherited traits that make them good sprinters).

EDIT: Here's a source for you on IQ heritability: American Psychological Association’s Task Force on Intelligence report.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.134...

“If one simply combines all available correlations in a single analysis, the heritability (h2) works out to about .50 and the between-family variance (c2) to about .25.” And “By late adolescence h2 is around .75 and c2 is quite low (zero in some studies).” (p. 85).

Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by jcoffland on Tuesday March 28, 2017 @12:18AM (#13974031)
In the case of the foster children, they initially scored low on IQ test but once placed in a better environment their scores went up significantly. This demonstrates that environment can have a huge effect on IQ scores and casts doubt on tests which claim that a correlation between IQ and family members implies IQ is mostly a result of genetics. Since family members generally live in similar environments their similar IQ scores can be explained by environment. It is even plausible that IQ score is mostly a result of environment.

Now, I can not prove that to be the case but it is far from settled that better genes = better IQ = better socioeconomic status. That reasoning implies that people in third world countries are poor because they are stupid which I just don't believe, partly because I've actually been to some of those countries.

Re:What You Can Do About Climate Change by Banthum on Monday March 27, 2017 @06:14PM (#13972304)
Factual beliefs should be a foundation for moral convictions, not the other way around.