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Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by AdamJacobMuller on Saturday March 25, 2017 @07:04PM (#13957984)
> hold all the inventory as evidence

With the FBA situation, why would amazon even care?

Amazon will just tell the seller, "X from your inventory was just sized by the FBI, talk to them if you want it back"

The seller has no leverage against Amazon, Amazon is out no money, Amazon will just get another shipment of counterfeit widgets the next day.

Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by cnst on Sunday March 26, 2017 @07:48AM (#13960310)
> Amazon will just tell the seller, "X from your inventory was just sized by the FBI, talk to them if you want it back"

No, if you have FBA, once your item enters their system, it's their item. If it's seized by the FBI, AMZ will pay you fair market price for your item they've lost the possession of, or will replace it with a likewise item.

I mean, if they had any actual idea/proof that you're the one who supplied them with the counterfeit, they'd not put it into their space in the first place; once it's on the shelves, it's all shared property, and sellers don't own any individual stock.

Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by sjwright on Sunday March 26, 2017 @05:42PM (#13963474)
What is the fair market price of perfume that has been identified as counterfeit by the FBI?
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by nommm-nommm on Sunday March 26, 2017 @06:03PM (#13963568)
Yeah, just because they pay you for inventory they lose doesn't mean they pay you for inventory that was seized for being counterfeit.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by sk5t on Saturday March 25, 2017 @07:14PM (#13958023)
Amazon might care when entire warehouses are locked down for investigation. It's systemic after all.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by AdamJacobMuller on Saturday March 25, 2017 @09:32PM (#13958515)
I find it unlikely to believe that they would lock down entire warehouses for any significant period. I think this is the equivalent of shutting down an entire port because of a (or a few) containers of cargo are counterfit.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by M_Grey on Saturday March 25, 2017 @11:16PM (#13958907)
...That sounds like the FBI we know and "love". They do so love to make a point.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by intrasight on Sunday March 26, 2017 @12:52AM (#13959221)
Amazon is a powerful company with friends in high places.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by bonestamp2 on Sunday March 26, 2017 @05:27PM (#13963406)
Don't forget about enemies in even higher places.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by mynameisvlad on Saturday March 25, 2017 @07:29PM (#13958071)
I believe FBA stock is comingled with other FBA and Amazon.com stock for the same SKU in the warehouse.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by chimeracoder on Saturday March 25, 2017 @08:27PM (#13958270)
Then how would they know when to credit a seller for a sale? I believe the seller doesn't receive the money until someone actually buys it.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by AdamJacobMuller on Saturday March 25, 2017 @09:32PM (#13958517)
Amazon credits you when someone buys your item, but the item Amazon ships the buyer might not be yours, but an equal equivalent.

And, before you ask: Yes, this results in situations where 100% legitimate sellers on Amazon can sometimes ship (via Amazon/FBA) their buyers counterfeit goods. Shitty situation to be in as a seller.

Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by cookiecaper on Saturday March 25, 2017 @10:04PM (#13958638)
Sellers can opt-out of commingling, but many don't because a) they don't understand the implications, as Amazon doesn't really make it clear; and b) because it requires them to individually add a separate sticker/identifier to each unit of their product, adding significantly to preparation and packaging costs.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by AdamJacobMuller on Saturday March 25, 2017 @11:11PM (#13958889)
I think Amazon charges more for storage fees if you disable commingling too.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by cnst on Sunday March 26, 2017 @07:50AM (#13960316)
I'd imagine fulfillment would be pricier, too, since items could no longer be located at every warehouse at no extra effort.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by throwawaylalala on Sunday March 26, 2017 @12:00PM (#13961396)
Not correct. They do however make you pay for a tier above their "small and light" for handling.
Re:Amazon's Tepid Response to Counterfeiters Frustrates Sellers by throwawaylalala on Sunday March 26, 2017 @11:59AM (#13961390)
Not true; depends on whether or not you use comingled inventory. It's easy to make it not comingled. That's what we do.