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Re:Daniel Dennett’s Science of the Soul by naasking on Thursday March 23, 2017 @05:17PM (#13944390)
> Talking lions are just lions with trans-species communicating capabilities.

In other words, completely different brains than regular lions. So, not lions.

Re:Daniel Dennett’s Science of the Soul by scott_s on Thursday March 23, 2017 @06:11PM (#13944819)
I agree with your position (and with Dennett's). "Talking" is not like an independent module with a lede you can attach to a lion's brain to get it to talk. It must be integrated with the lion's brain, and that necessarily changes the brain to the point that it's no longer a "lion." This is because even simple statements like "I am hungry" require the ability for sophisticated abstraction. "Talking" is more than mere vocalization, it's also the thought processes behind the vocalization. Once you've changed a brain so that it is capable of those sophisticated abstractions, it's no longer the same.
Re:Daniel Dennett’s Science of the Soul by thevardanian on Thursday March 23, 2017 @10:25PM (#13946099)
Is a person missing half a brain, in a vegetable state with little hope for recovery not human?
Re:Daniel Dennett’s Science of the Soul by naasking on Thursday March 23, 2017 @10:37PM (#13946168)
Except they're missing half a human brain. A talking lion would not have a lion brain.
Re:Daniel Dennett’s Science of the Soul by mercer on Friday March 24, 2017 @03:16AM (#13947238)
In the context of, say, figuring out what makes humans act the way they do: most certainly not.