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Re:Ask HN: Competitor is successful with black hat SEO by builtinbuffalo on Monday March 20, 2017 @07:53PM (#13918655)
Google no longer applies a demotion penalty to a site with spammy links, especially those from negative seo campaigns, but rather devalues the links. This is since the "real time" Penguin update at the end of September. You can still use disavow, but it's likely a waste of time...and if you don't know what you're doing could make things worse.
Re:Ask HN: Competitor is successful with black hat SEO by walshemj on Monday March 20, 2017 @08:04PM (#13918729)
I haven't head that as far as I know you can still get a manual penalty for a number of issues.

I have had to help clean up one or two sites.

Re:Ask HN: Competitor is successful with black hat SEO by walshemj on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @05:17PM (#13926328)
I wonder if the down voters have ever had clear up a manual penalty.
Re:Ask HN: Competitor is successful with black hat SEO by builtinbuffalo on Monday March 20, 2017 @09:36PM (#13919104)
Google said so themselves late last year.
Re:Ask HN: Competitor is successful with black hat SEO by austenallred on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @12:30PM (#13923770)
Explain that to the manual "link spam" penalty we got in April ;)
Re:Ask HN: Competitor is successful with black hat SEO by sobani on Thursday March 23, 2017 @08:59AM (#13939324)
It's only March. How do you know you're going to get a penalty next month?