Yeah, based upon the 1000 cycle count, Teslas will start to depreciate pretty badly at somewhere between 215,000 and 350,000 miles.
Is that bad?
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years
by steven777400 on Monday March 20, 2017 @11:25AM
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I'd like to know more about this too, and how Tesla and other companies plan to address it.
I'm particularly concerned about the potential environmental impact of dumping a bunch of batteries into landfills. Is there a battery reburishment/recycling program for these vehicles?
Tesla's battery recycling program sounds pretty impressive, and the cost of new batteries is lower every year. https://www.tesla.com/blog/teslas-closed-loop-battery-recycl...
I think at the 1000 charge cycle point, the batteries degrade but are not useless. There is an idea that they can then be used as grid tied storage or in places where AH/Kg does not matter as much.
I thought they took the guts out and seperated the constituent parts and put back in the raw material side of the gigafactory. Or did I just make that up?
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years
by greglindahl on Monday March 20, 2017 @05:32PM
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In addition to the other commenters about EV batteries, note that 99% of the 12V starter batteries used in conventional vehicles in the US are recycled.
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years
by mywittyname on Monday March 20, 2017 @12:09PM
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Yeah, they are high 90s% recyclable, depending on the technology.
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years
by vectorjohn on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @10:35AM
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The fear of battery degradation is way way overblown. You'll drive at least a few hundred thousand miles before you might "need" to replace it [1]. And even then, you could keep going.
[1] https://electrek.co/2016/06/06/tesla-model-s-battery-pack-da...
This will be an Issue that will be highlighted very soon. We'll see a huge devaluation in secondhand Tesla cars, since replacing the battery will be more expensive than replacing an engine in a car (I believe), plus it'll have to be done every ten years - while a car can keep the same engine for decades, especially when some of the wearables like timing belts and seals and such are replaced.
I hope Tesla will recognise this too and do something about it - battery replacement programs, preferably where they can replace batteries with higher-capacity ones as time goes by.
I don't see how owning a car in full can work for electric cars, not when the battery needs to be replaced every ten years. I don't know what the lifespan of the drive unit is either.