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Re:Story of the Mexican Fisherman by mynameishere on Monday March 17, 2008 @03:35PM (#139142)
By most accounts some (not all) but some primitive people had quite pleasant, stress-free lives. The African pygmies, for instance, supposedly only hunted a few hours out of the week and otherwise lolled about, quite happily. But most Africans of that type were wiped out by the Bantu.

The problem, of course, is that the survival (and expansion) of the fittest kicks in. Eventually, the people willing to putter around in an open boat are bought out, undersold, or otherwise replaced by fishing companies. Then, land by the shore hits 500K per quarter acre as people with hardworking jobs push up the price.

Re:Story of the Mexican Fisherman by pchristensen on Monday March 17, 2008 @04:47PM (#139211)
I heard that the problem with the pygmies hunting for 10 hours a week was that this figure was noted by anthropologists that were driving the pygmies around in trucks!
Re:Story of the Mexican Fisherman by bocajuniors on Monday March 17, 2008 @05:24PM (#139242)
survival of the fittest? hunter/gatherers were replaced by settlers largely because of lack of resistance for deceases spread from animals to settlers. pretty painful way of becoming fitter and quite odd way of defining the word.
Re:Story of the Mexican Fisherman by mynameishere on Monday March 17, 2008 @06:26PM (#139307)
What do you think Darwinian fitness is?
Re:Story of the Mexican Fisherman by bocajuniors on Tuesday March 18, 2008 @12:39AM (#139569)
i am fully aware of what it means, which i think is obvious from what i wrote.what i was trying to communicate was that it was a step backwards for most people in most ways which makes it misleading to speak of fitness.of course you can argue that societies takes the place of organisms in this case but i think the term would be misleading even then, since it happened quite circumstantial
Re:Story of the Mexican Fisherman by curi on Monday March 17, 2008 @10:20PM (#139471)
Re:Story of the Mexican Fisherman by Tichy on Tuesday March 18, 2008 @07:22AM (#139742)
Interesting, however, the following quote makes me suspect the researchers made the usual error of using average life expectancy, which is very distorted because of high child mortality. Would be interesting to see more precise numbers.

"Pygmies around the world are short in life expectancy as well as height, with the average adult dying at 16-24 years of age. Only 30-50% of children survive to the age of 15 and less than a third of women live to see menopause at 37."