Re:With a 10-day supply of opioids, 1 in 5 become long-term ...
by darpa_escapee on Sunday March 19, 2017 @05:54PM
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> You mention tolerance, nodding, respiratory depression, histamine response and constipation... this is odd.
I was completely opioid-naive at the time. A teaspoon or two of Kratom had the potential to knock me out for a few hours at that point in my life.
> Histamine response from kratom is also much less than other opioids - and I say that as someone with symptomatic dermographism.
I don't have much to compare Kratom with, but I would end up scratching myself all day and night without realizing how hard I was doing it because of the analgesia.
> And the oddest of all, respiratory depression - I'm on mobile so don't have sources to hand, but kratom has been shown to absolutely not cause respiratory depression.
At that time, I would combine Kratom with the benzodiazepine I was prescribed and noticed a difficulty breathing and a drop in my breathing rate. On its own, it was pretty insignificant.
> I know there have been cases of kratom being spiked with potent opioids such as O-desmethyltramadol, and honestly it sounds like you've had something like that. Did you buy from a head shop?
I bought from different online bulk suppliers and vendors, sourced from different communities and referenced with independent rating systems. Plain leaf was pretty consistent across the better vendors.
I was completely opioid-naive at the time. A teaspoon or two of Kratom had the potential to knock me out for a few hours at that point in my life.
> Histamine response from kratom is also much less than other opioids - and I say that as someone with symptomatic dermographism.
I don't have much to compare Kratom with, but I would end up scratching myself all day and night without realizing how hard I was doing it because of the analgesia.
> And the oddest of all, respiratory depression - I'm on mobile so don't have sources to hand, but kratom has been shown to absolutely not cause respiratory depression.
At that time, I would combine Kratom with the benzodiazepine I was prescribed and noticed a difficulty breathing and a drop in my breathing rate. On its own, it was pretty insignificant.
> I know there have been cases of kratom being spiked with potent opioids such as O-desmethyltramadol, and honestly it sounds like you've had something like that. Did you buy from a head shop?
I bought from different online bulk suppliers and vendors, sourced from different communities and referenced with independent rating systems. Plain leaf was pretty consistent across the better vendors.