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Re:Intel’s first Optane SSD: 375GB that you can also use as RAM by ori_b on Sunday March 19, 2017 @03:22PM (#13909079)
Bugs become a lot more persistent, for one. "Reset it and see if it goes away" stops working nearly as well.
Re:Intel’s first Optane SSD: 375GB that you can also use as RAM by dmytrish on Sunday March 19, 2017 @03:44PM (#13909204)
The end is near! Only Haskell and purely functional programming (persistent shared data structures) will save us from persistent bugs.
Re:Intel’s first Optane SSD: 375GB that you can also use as RAM by tracker1 on Monday March 20, 2017 @12:01AM (#13911575)
Considering how many odd state issues I see these days (more often in Angular 1.x apps than anything else), don't underestimate the potential for problems there.
Re:Intel’s first Optane SSD: 375GB that you can also use as RAM by yjftsjthsd-h on Monday March 20, 2017 @12:37AM (#13911736)
Keep in mind that Smalltalk also persisted everything in what I think was called images, and it managed fine.
Re:Intel’s first Optane SSD: 375GB that you can also use as RAM by amygdyl on Wednesday March 22, 2017 @01:10AM (#13928609)
Already learned the joy of waiting for a Surface to drain, to force a reboot. Forbidding shutdown/reboot without authentication on the network was the proximate cause of the wait. But not being able to remove power, from a device that was not trusted, and could be doing anything in theory, was a sobering thought.

Should devices like tablets, with enclosed batteries, be required to have physical circuit breakers for power, as a security measure, if compromised?

We realized that we had to have a planned action to block MACs from the network, in response to any device having questionable integrity.

Even a small Faraday cage was considered - WiFi not the only radio on portables: laptops without removable batteries hop across LTE via VPN... so that was another policy to set a script to shut down.

Persistence, in this case of processes - or just not being able to remove a battery - is a threat that with good reason shocked us, because it is so ubiquitous. I believe the moment a unscheduled reboot or shutdown occurs, at the very least all LAN/WAN access needs to be automatically cut.

edit:typo

Re:Intel’s first Optane SSD: 375GB that you can also use as RAM by oneweekwonder on Sunday March 19, 2017 @03:39PM (#13909176)
Won't OS just have a service to 0 out all the RAM, definitely on shutdown for security reasons, with a performance hit in time and write cycles on your sdd. Same mechanism at boot?
Re:Intel’s first Optane SSD: 375GB that you can also use as RAM by ori_b on Sunday March 19, 2017 @03:50PM (#13909236)
That assumes that the OS didn't crash. It also assumes that the data isn't valuable, in which case why not just use faster, cheaper ram?

There are workarounds, like adding a layer of faster, cheaper ram, but then this starts to look like a big perf improvement in a rather traditional system.

Re:Intel’s first Optane SSD: 375GB that you can also use as RAM by viraptor on Monday March 20, 2017 @03:18AM (#13912363)
And on startup, if anyone could have physical access to your hardware.