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Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by jeron on Friday March 17, 2017 @02:38PM (#13896674)
>Get to work making your infrastructure resilient to a simple accidental deletion

I'm sure they've been working on that since the deletion

Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by aquabib on Friday March 17, 2017 @03:00PM (#13896913)
But where are the stories on this work? What improvements have been made?

Detailed posts on that is how you begin to restore confidence.

No one is just going to take their word that "stuff are in place now".

Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by YorickPeterse on Friday March 17, 2017 @03:15PM (#13897055)
This is mostly spread across different issues in our issue tracker (https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure). I suspect we'll write up a blog post once all the moving parts are in place, have been tested/used for a while, etc.
Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by a3_nm on Friday March 17, 2017 @07:46PM (#13898967)
There is a list of issues in https://about.gitlab.com/2017/02/10/postmortem-of-database-o... -- also in https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GCK53YDcBWQveod9kfzW-VCx..., see Recovery, 3, l.

I think it's great that they are being completely transparent about this.

That said, it's true that it's been almost two months and it seems that the some important issues there are still open and don't look especially active.

Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by sytse on Friday March 17, 2017 @08:24PM (#13899141)
The follow up was pretty extensive and we'll be working on it for months to come. Some issues that have been done:

1. Update PS1 across all hosts to more clearly differentiate between hosts and environments https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues/1094

2. Set PostgreSQL's max_connections to a sane value https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues/1096

3. Move staging to the ARM environment https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues/1100

4. Improve PostgreSQL replication documentation/runbooks https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues/1103

5. Build Streaming Database Backup https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues/1152

6. Assign an owner for data durability https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues/1163

Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by hartator on Friday March 17, 2017 @03:29PM (#13897184)
Their reaction has been at least very un-profesional. I wouldn't trust them with my data. Specifically when you have a github in front of them.
Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by LyndsySimon on Friday March 17, 2017 @07:15PM (#13898778)
My impression is the opposite of yours - I've moved personal projects from GitHub since their incident.
Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by hartator on Friday March 17, 2017 @07:29PM (#13898866)
I respect that but why? Not the incident itself, but the architecture thwy pick point to that they have no idea about what they are doing.
Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by LyndsySimon on Friday March 17, 2017 @07:44PM (#13898957)
Their incident response gives me confidence that this sort of thing is much less likely to happen in the future.

It also brought to my attention how much they've progressed as a platform since I used them last.

Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by winteriscoming on Friday March 17, 2017 @11:47PM (#13899793)
>> Their incident response gives me confidence that this sort of thing is much less likely to happen in the future

That doesn't sound logical to me. The chances of such incidents happening isn't related to how they announce that incident.

Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by marcus_holmes on Saturday March 18, 2017 @12:25AM (#13899886)
yes it totally is.

A company culture of openly admitting mistakes, knowing that your team-mates will not play the blame game, means that problems will be reported quickly.

In a "conventional" culture, an engineer who makes a mistake (and who will be fired for making that mistake) is incentivised to cover up the mistake and hope that the blame falls elsewhere.

In an open culture, the engineer who makes a mistake is incentivised to immediately raise the alarm.

So while the chances of a mistake happening are the same (we're all human), the chances of it being caught quickly and dealt with quickly are better in an open culture.

Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by winteriscoming on Saturday March 18, 2017 @12:33AM (#13899908)
>> So while the chances of a mistake happening are the same (we're all human)

...and that's the point I was making in my comment

Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by mos_basik on Saturday March 18, 2017 @12:51AM (#13899945)
think you're missing his meaning. should be:

>while the chances of a mistake happening are the same [at transparent companies like gitlab and at opaque companies like github]

>the chances of it being dealt with quickly are better in an open culture [like gitlab compared to a closed culture like github]

Re:How is team-member-1 doing? by hartator on Saturday March 18, 2017 @02:35AM (#13900205)
They lost 3h of customer data, it's not open culture. It's just gross incompetence.