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Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by bluntfang on Friday March 17, 2017 @10:57AM (#13894410)
When I watch netflix, I use the stars as a measure of if I would enjoy something. I don't think most people use stars as a measure of "quality" because when they browse movies, they are looking for something they enjoy, not something that's high quality that they might not enjoy.
Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by bmelton on Friday March 17, 2017 @11:04AM (#13894469)
This seems like pure difficulty for me. When I think of thumbs up / down metrics I think in terms of "would I endorse this?"

A movie like "Suicide Squad" was (to me at least) highly enjoyable, though I thought it objectively had many problems with plot and delivery. I would probably give it 3 stars, which is relatively neutral for me (or leave it altogether unrated). If it were thumbs up/down, I would probably have to leave it unrated completely.

Maybe that's an improvement, but the more discussion I see around this, the more I realize the futility of single-axis metrics for things like this, until and unless you're asking a single question "Did you enjoy this movie" is a much different question from "is this a good movie" -- and I don't really know which one I've been answering on Netflix all these years past.

Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by bluntfang on Friday March 17, 2017 @11:58AM (#13894979)
I think you are an anomalous user. I'm not sure why you're OK with rating 1-5 stars but not a thumbsup or down. I think you're just upset because they are changing.
Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by CaptSpify on Friday March 17, 2017 @01:29PM (#13895968)
I like giving weight to my vote.

3 stars = "not a bad movie, but wouldn't recommend"

4 starts = "decent movie, would recommend"

5 stars = "great movie, would definitely recommend"

A binary choice doesn't have any weight to it.

Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by kartickv on Saturday March 18, 2017 @02:09AM (#13900148)
I don't think there's a need for weight since there are many reviewers. The weight is the percentage of people who thumbed it up.
Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by CaptSpify on Monday March 20, 2017 @11:40AM (#13915081)
How does weight have anything to do with amount of reviewers? Those are completely unrelated metrics.
Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by sethammons on Saturday March 18, 2017 @09:49AM (#13901208)
The current suggested rating is influenced by your history of rating, with weight given to how highly you rated it. There are shows that are suggested at 4 stars for my wife but at 2 stars for me.
Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by sethammons on Saturday March 18, 2017 @09:46AM (#13901200)
This. And based on my history of rating, Netflix had been pretty good at guessing if something will be 3+ stars. If they think it is 3 stars, I consider watching. If they think it is 4+, I tend to really enjoy the suggestion. Though, nearly every Netflix original is suggested at 5 stars, lol.
Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by __david__ on Friday March 17, 2017 @03:31PM (#13897209)
I agree. I even want a couple more increments between 2,3, and 4. There are a lot of movies I see that I think are better or worse than a 3 rating but don't justify a 2 or a 4. I feel there's a lot of room for nuance around the middle area.
Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by phy6 on Friday March 17, 2017 @01:18PM (#13895851)
Lets say a movie previously would have shown 3 out of 5 stars. Where does that fit in with the binary thumbs up/down? I think they are just doing this because recently some actors movies are being attacked with 1 star ratings for being politically vocal.
Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by alphapapa on Saturday March 18, 2017 @01:12PM (#13902284)
> I think you're just upset because they are changing.

This is actually rude of you, bordering on ridicule. He explained very clearly why he is dissatisfied.

Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by SyneRyder on Friday March 17, 2017 @04:02PM (#13897463)
I've had this argument with my (tending towards elderly) parents while introducing them to Netflix. They don't understand rating for enjoyment, and keep rating for "quality". They'll watch a show, absolutely hate it, but give it a 4 or 5 star rating because "it was well produced and the camera work was good, but it isn't the sort of thing I personally like to watch".

I'm worried about the thumbs up/down, as Netflix has increasingly recommended shows I do not like this year, and I don't think the thumbs solves the "rating for perceived quality" issue. I've been using Movielens for recommendations a lot instead, and it seems more accurate for me... and it has enough stats to show that on their site, most rating is not binary, much closer to a normal curve for average movies or a linear graph on really good movies. (It lets you see the distribution curve on individual movies, and other metrics.)

Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by johnny22 on Saturday March 18, 2017 @12:14AM (#13899853)
interesting. I always rated for enjoyment.

I thought that Neflix made it pretty clear that the ratings were used to choose which content to show me. So I should only rate based on what I'd actually like to see.

Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by wtetzner on Friday March 17, 2017 @11:05AM (#13894477)
I think a lot of people look at the stars as a measure of enjoyment when trying to find something to watch, but when actually rating something, as a measure of quality.
Re:Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs... by bobwaycott on Friday March 17, 2017 @11:10AM (#13894516)
I use the stars to signal quality as a means of determining if I'd enjoy it. 5 stars? This is likely to be high-quality and enjoyable. 3 stars? This is going to be lower quality and I may not enjoy it. 1 star? This is likely shit quality, and I'll regret playing—or it's a cult classic and all the haters don't get it.