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Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by GFischer on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:13PM (#13888121)
I disagree. Depends on the service's business model obviously, but there are services where the convenience will more than offset the extra costs.

Once the company grows big enough, yes, then it might make sense to go off AWS (or not - see: Netflix).

Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by secabeen on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:40PM (#13888430)
Remember that Netflix runs their core product (content distribution) internally on their own CDN. All of the supporting technologies (billing, content discovery, etc.) is on AWS, but the core product is not.
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by rbranson on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:59PM (#13888612)
This was a pretty recent change. Netflix has classically relied on third-party CDN providers. They launched the streaming service in 2007, and it took them 9 years to move 100% of their traffic to their own CDN infrastructure. That said, they still have one of the largest AWS footprints.
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by user5994461 on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:48PM (#13888513)
The core products are the shows, not the tech.
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by omarchowdhury on Thursday March 16, 2017 @04:36PM (#13888935)
Without the tech, no one sees the core products.
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by user5994461 on Thursday March 16, 2017 @05:04PM (#13889164)
Without the shows, the tech has nothing to show. Who's gonna pay for nothing?
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by omarchowdhury on Thursday March 16, 2017 @08:00PM (#13890249)
Those with the shows didn't build the tech, but Netflix did.
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by antons_ghost on Thursday March 16, 2017 @09:14PM (#13890563)
And now Netflix is even building shows.
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by pm90 on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:35PM (#13888385)
I've always found it interesting that Netflix has not at least tried to go off AWS; if only because Amazon has a competing service with Amazon video. I'm sure its not an easy problem to solve, but Dropbox has gone off AWS as well; it seems like they would be much better served with their own "Video Cloud" with specialized hardware for streaming/processing videos.
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by illumin8 on Thursday March 16, 2017 @07:26PM (#13890070)
Netflix realizes that the value presented by AWS for outweighs the costs. If you feel differently, you should probably ask yourself what information you are missing, rather than just dismissing Netflix and their decision. It's clear that Netflix knows more about operating applications with tens of millions of simultaneous global users than most companies...
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by bcook on Thursday March 16, 2017 @08:30PM (#13890377)
>If you feel differently, you should probably ask yourself what information you are missing

That's something that should be applied almost universally. :)

Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by curun1r on Thursday March 16, 2017 @10:03PM (#13890784)
I don't think Netflix and Amazon really compete yet. Very few people see the two services as either/or. They're more allies against the cable companies at the moment.
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by pokler on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:44PM (#13888473)
Netflix doesn't use AWS for streaming video.

https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/

Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by danblick on Thursday March 16, 2017 @04:13PM (#13888740)
You make a good point that Netflix has a pretty sophisticated system for delivering video (not just served from AWS Cloudfront). However IIUC they still use AWS for preparing video files for their CDN.
Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by GFischer on Thursday March 16, 2017 @04:00PM (#13888622)
Dropbox is an example where their core business is very data-intensive and AWS costs can be considerable.

I'm thinking of services, say the automated robo-built sadwiches, or the Easy 401 service, or the luxury shoes startup (all real YC-accepted companies), where the core business proposition isn't necessarily dependent on having a huge infrastructure.

Re:A million-dollar engineering problem by eip on Friday March 17, 2017 @01:15PM (#13895812)
Netflix doesn't pay retail prices for AWS.