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Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by an_opabinia on Thursday March 16, 2017 @12:24PM (#13886313)
D-Wave is the original Theranos.

- They make bold claims that many people plainly say don't make sense, before seeing any evidence.

- They use hype to buy time to do scientific research.

- The successes of the D-Wave machine have the same characteristic p-hacking profile of Theranos's Edison machine. That is, try 200 problems, and find 1 that appears to work, which could just be due to chance.

- Apologists talk about "there are a lot of smart people working" there or blame "marketing," but who haven't seen the product and don't know any more than anyone else.

The main differences are (1) the lack of an enigmatic founder. (2) D-Wave publishes, and then in later analysis their claims don't hold up.

Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by jcranmer on Thursday March 16, 2017 @12:45PM (#13886495)
Two major differences:

- D-Wave does seem to understand the criticisms and slowly incorporate them into each subsequent test. Theranos instead preferred ad hominem attacks on their attackers.

- The question about D-Wave isn't whether or not it works, it's about whether or not it is useful. Theranos couldn't even get their non-magic technology working right.

Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by M_Grey on Thursday March 16, 2017 @04:17PM (#13888781)
The question is how it works, and whether or not it works as advertised. In that sense, no it does not work.
Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by gumby on Thursday March 16, 2017 @05:41PM (#13889456)
I think this is an unfair comparison (and I have grave doubts of D-wave's "achievements"). People can actually buy the machines and play with them. I have credulous and doubting friends at google who play with/have played with google's D-wave.

Also Theranos explicitly went against the FDA (like 23andMe), while D-wave is going along the publication route.

Theranos was simply bogus (I wouldn't call it fraudulent, but definitely bogus). D-Wave is like many tech startups, some of which do end up panning out.

Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by Florin_Andrei on Thursday March 16, 2017 @02:22PM (#13887500)
That is way overblown.

What they have is more akin to an analog computer, using quantum tricks to solve problems. The issue here is that most people disagree that this fits into the general definition of a "quantum computer".

Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by 6nf on Thursday March 16, 2017 @11:03PM (#13891056)
That's not what Aaron is saying. He's saying there's no evidence that the D-Wave machine is using any quantum tricks to solve problems at all.
Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by hourislate on Thursday March 16, 2017 @12:47PM (#13886512)
What would explain the interest Google, NASA and the DoD have in D-Wave and the fact that they have acquired a few of these devices?
Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by deepnotderp on Thursday March 16, 2017 @01:16PM (#13886818)
Most of those organizations are happy to dump $1 million into something with so much potential power on the off-chance that it turns out to work. In fact, if I was in charge of Google, and understood the extremely tiny chance that D-Wave is legit, I would still dump in money, because the tiny chance it works still makes it worth it.
Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by monktastic1 on Thursday March 16, 2017 @02:17PM (#13887446)
But they (in particular, Google) also have experts in quantum physics and computing on staff, so they're much better equipped than most to determine the validity of the claim.
Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by QCman on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:26PM (#13888273)
The actual price for a D-Wave machine is more than $10M. It's a good sign that the first customers have continued their support by upgrading to the newer models.
Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by gumby on Thursday March 16, 2017 @05:44PM (#13889486)
As a taxpayer I'm glad those organizations buy these machines, just as they bought Connection Machines, Crays, etc. Some of those bets panned out. And in fact if that money went into nothing but more understanding of the difficulties of quantum computing wouldn't you be glad?

But I don't make the mistake of interpreting a purchase as some sort of endorsement. It's merely an endorsement that "your plausibility level is above our noise floor".

Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by valarauca1 on Thursday March 16, 2017 @02:01PM (#13887294)
The DoD will give you a few thousand USD if you write a good enough proposal for the military benefits of sharks with freaking lasers on their heads for the defense of navy vessels [1].

Throwing a few million at a prototype computer on the off chance it works is well within the budget.

[1] Austin Power reference not a real research project.

Re:Insert D-Wave Post Here by Neliquat on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:12PM (#13888114)
We do however, since the 1940s, have dolphins with bombs.