> do they have competitors? Other lyrics sites look and feel like static html sites from the early 2000's

If I'm looking for song lyrics, and not some collaborative social information-exchange medium, then that's exactly what I want it to look like (and pretty much be.)

Genius is slow loading and slow scrolling and has bigger ad blocks than most lyrics sites. If I'm not specifically looking for annotations rather than mere lyrics, it's strictly worse Tha the competition.

Those aren't really competitors, though. At least not in the spirit of the op comment.

> I haven't found Genius to be significantly better at annotating lyrics than any of it's competitors

So again, what competitors are they talking about?

Since when was annotating lyrics a competitive business?

Edit: Since I've been downvoted at least once, I want to clarify. I'm unsure what monetary value can be extracted from the ability to annotate third party websites, or in this case, specifically, lyrics. As others have mentioned, if I want lyrics, I typically just want the lyrics, as uncomplicated as possible. Perhaps I'm missing something.

That's the point fav_collector and I are making. What competitors? xatan_dark seems to think they have some.

I should have been more specific- I meant to refer to their competitors in the analysis of lyrics, not just annotation. For this purpose, I feel that Genius is overall quite poor and that there are much better discussion boards and services.

With regards to annotation specifically, songfacts and lyricsmode are competitors in that they support the same kind of annotation Genius does. In this sense, they are certainly competitors, though Genius has far more annotations and is winning the competition.

My main point about the failure of Genius is that it's Jedi mind tricked people into thinking annotation, and not just annotation in general but Genius' specific implementation of it, is the 'best' way to discover the 'objective' meaning of individual songs. There is no objective meaning and Genius' annotation feature is hardly as powerful as people give it credit for. Genius is just a discussion board with annotations enabled- another iteration of the many discussion boards which VC's have foolishly pumped tons of money into and not received a payout from.

Strange, their AMP version works fine, don't see why they let the desktop get so bloated.

I was actually comparing the AMP version on mobile to several other lyrics sites (I think the performance issues relate to ad loading.)

Wow, really? I never noticed any lag on Genius AMP (no, not shilling).

It's the only lag I've seen on any AMP, and the ads didn't complete loading, so I assume something to do with ad loading is the issue.

> Other lyrics sites look and feel like static html sites from the early 2000's

Why does that not make them competitors? With the struggles Genius is having I would say they are definitely feeling the competition.

Competition isn't the only reason companies struggle. They often are solving an insignificant problem that people don't need a solution for.

I don't think having a more modern design could be classed as a unique selling point. Users often aren't that bothered from what I can tell, if you just want lyrics the fact that the site isn't hyper modern doesn't matter as long as the lyrics are accurate.

Its a testament to a site like ohhla.com . I think they've had one site design refresh since 2000, but I don't think there have ever been lyrics on genius that I didn't also find on ohhla.

Google embeds lyrics in search results see https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=burn%20the%20wit...

The only competitor I have seen is Fiskkit (www.fiskkit.com) which lets readers tag and comment at the sentence level and call out logical fallacies