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Re:Hitting Absolute Zero Has Been Declared Mathematically Im... by madamelic on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @02:05PM (#13878313)
Can anyone explain why it took 100 years to 'prove' this?

Like a really basic proof is:

- It takes an infinite amount of time and resources to remove energy to reach absolute zero

- You can't reach infinity

- Therefore reaching absolute zero is impossible.

What deeper knowledge am I missing?

Re:Hitting Absolute Zero Has Been Declared Mathematically Im... by dragonwriter on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @02:09PM (#13878354)
> It takes an infinite amount of time and resources to remove energy to reach absolute zero

Since particles not at absolute zero have finite energy, this point is non-trivial and proving this point was actually the focus. (Tangentially, I think this has been a common and strong intuition, and suggested by extrapolation from empirical evidence, that you could asymptotically approach but not reach absolute zero because it would be progressively harder as you got closer. But there's a difference between that and a mathematical proof grounded in assumptions that are well-accepted.)

Yes, if you have this as a known truth, you're basically done.

Re:Hitting Absolute Zero Has Been Declared Mathematically Im... by madamelic on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @02:22PM (#13878464)
Ah! Thanks for the clarification.
Re:Hitting Absolute Zero Has Been Declared Mathematically Im... by thehardsphere on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @02:08PM (#13878349)
That first premise is the one that hasn't always been "proven." Including it your "proof" is begging the question.
Re:Hitting Absolute Zero Has Been Declared Mathematically Im... by contravariant on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @08:42PM (#13881335)
>- You can't reach infinity

That's the hard bit. The infinity could simply be an artefact of your description. You could for instance describe direction on a map as 'miles east / miles north' and conclude that it's impossible to move due east or west but that's clearly not the case.

A more sophisticated example would be the event horizon of a black hole, where several quantities seem to become infinite, but it turned out this wasn't the case with the right coordinate system, meaning that it's likely all too possible to cross the event horizon.