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Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by terravion on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @02:12AM (#13874158)
I don't really understand why the NYT is so terrible on ag policy issues--they could really do some of the heavy lifting here for us and at least try and evaluate the claims being made--like severity and concurrence rates being claimed by the plaintiffs.

The NYT apples to oranges study on rate of yield increase in countries that don't use GMOs (lower starting point) to countries that do (higher starting point) over the same time really undermines their editorial credibility on these kinds of issues with people, like me, who actually deal with agriculture.

Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by marcell on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @02:38AM (#13874237)
Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by Bartweiss on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @11:51AM (#13876933)
God knows their coverage of other topics I'm knowledgeable about isn't much better.

They cover some political and recent-events stuff solidly (international topics much less so), but the domain-specific sucks well outside of agricultural policy. If ag policy and computer security and rock climbing are all poorly covered, I eventually have to assume they aren't doing any better on the topics I don't know.

(Where, of course, "terrible" and "better than most" are not contradictory.)

Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by phs318u on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @04:04AM (#13874545)
Thanks for posting. I hadn't heard of that.
Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by mmjaa on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @04:19AM (#13874600)
Maybe its not the NYT's job to do these things, but rather just inform those who know better, such as yourself, that the docs have been un-sealed, and we can get better analyses of this previously-hidden material in order that lay people, such as myself, can better understand just how Monsanto have fooled so many people into poisoning the world with their highly profitable product.
Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by Broken_Hippo on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @06:45AM (#13875166)
The problem is that lay people are the audience for NYT. Most of the population won't really understand it, honestly. If they wanted to make sure someone informed knew, they could have easily reached out.

The truth is that this was published without because it is an issue that gets folks to read, making their job of selling newspapers easier.

Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by Bartweiss on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @11:59AM (#13877009)
And this happens everywhere.

My favorite example is the coverage of the Dawn Wall rock climb a few years back. It was 'news', but there was very little time pressure for coverage, there was (almost) no divisive/political aspect, and the technical aspects were easy to break down to lay-reader level. Plus, there were thousands of online guides and experts willing to clarify context and terminology for free. It should have been covered flawlessly, just because there was nothing standing in the way of that.

And instead, the results were shameful. There was no real harm done, but most of the articles were less accurate than a Simple English Wikipedia page would have been. It made for an interesting demonstration of how atrocious any form of expert-knowledge news is, even by sites like the NYT, even on uncontroversial topics.

Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by mmjaa on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @09:22AM (#13875865)
Doesn't matter, still read about the crimes Monsanto commits in order to maintain its power over the worlds food supply ..
Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by obmelvin on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @03:09PM (#13878857)
Completely disagree. The nyt readers (I'd assume) are generally well educated, but despite my education I'm in no way able to assess this information. By reading the NYT I'd expect to be informed about an area which my education has not covered.
Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by wcummings on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @09:45AM (#13876010)
That sounds a lot like journalism, which is the nyt's job
Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by mmjaa on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @09:51AM (#13876059)
Well, they did it. More informed people are discussing this today than they were yesterday.
Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by nerdponx on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @03:55AM (#13874512)
Is there a better source for reading about agriculture policy issues? I feel like all of my sources have a subtle anti-ag bias or a blatantly pro-ag one. Maybe an ag econ blog?
Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by CapTVK on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @06:23AM (#13875093)
Dr. Steve Savage's blog: "Applied Mythology" is a good start.

http://appliedmythology.blogspot.com/

But I wonder what is "subtle anti-ag" or "blatantly pro-ag" means in this context. Can you give some examples?

Re:Unsealed Documents Raise Questions on Monsanto Weed Killer by nerdponx on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @12:32PM (#13877309)
Subtly anti-ag: one-sided articles in liberal news outlets about the dangers and social injustices associated with ag tech like GMOs, and books like The Omnivore's Dilemma. Purporting to be unbiased but might not be.

Blatantly pro-ag: research funded by agribusiness or the USDA. Clearly intended to benefit the industry.