Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy the following conditions”

Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th... by johan_larson on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @12:06PM (#13868697)

I suspect a subtle mistranslation here. Chekhov seems to be talking about decent people, or maybe good people, not cultured ones.

In English, it is quite possible to be cultured but bad. You know all kinds of stuff about literature, music, art, history and science (and therefore you are cultured) but you cheat on your wife and your taxes (and are therefore bad).

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Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th... by pavel_lishin on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @02:50PM (#13870323)

I think I agree. To be некультурным implies more than just not having refined tastes, or an education, or manners.

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Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th... by treve on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @01:12PM (#13869406)

I think it depends on your definition of cultured as well. Depending on the dictionary it also means enlightened and good mannered. I consider cheating pretty bad mannered.

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Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th... by nybblet on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @01:49PM (#13869758)

Agreed with treve, what does culture really mean? If you read ALL the literature, listen to ALL the music, view ALL the art, can recite ALL the history and do ALL the science... and still conclude it's OK to cheat on your wife and taxes, the argument can be made that none of this culture was internalized, and hence you are not cultured.

Of course things are rarely so black-and-white, but that's the gist of it.

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Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th... by ameister14 on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @02:26PM (#13870107)

You can understand something and possess the qualities of it and still choose to ignore them

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Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th... by 15charlimit on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @06:03PM (#13871887)

Or that "culture" approves (or at least does not disapprove) of such activity.

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