Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page

Re:Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page by brudgers on Monday March 13, 2017 @03:29PM (#13861461)

I think the rate of objectively incorrectly flagged posts is very low. The author's previous post is an example. Flagging meta posts is not objectively incorrect. Flagging posts that suggest nefarious motives by the moderators is not objectively incorrect. Flagging posts that are technically mediocre (i.e. not reflecting knowledge of HN's moderators or the long published general ranking algorithm) is not objectively incorrect. The only obvious objectively incorrect situation of flags killing a story is when there is organized effort to flag a story to death for ulterior motive...and I suspect that is probably already covered reasonably well algorithmically.

Technically and opinion aside, given the weighting function, what is supposed to happen when someone vouches for an eight hour old thirty-five point story? Does it move to page the middle of page two? How is justice done?

To quote Dennis Moore blimey, this redistribution of wealth is trickier than I thought.

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Re:Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page by walterbell on Monday March 13, 2017 @05:39PM (#13862675)

In the weighting function, wouldn't vouching invert the changes that were previously effected by flagging, which in fact took place on an incremental basis? Or are you saying that vouching is not needed?

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Re:Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page by brudgers on Monday March 13, 2017 @06:10PM (#13862943)

Generally, I think that a vouching queue looks like another way for people who like the sort of submissions that HN tends to flag to further promote that content.

I don't think flagging is creating problems in terms of HN's quality. As I indicated, there were lots of reasonable criteria under which to flag the previous post. To me, this post has characteristics that meet those criteria as well.

Where vouching might have a role is a quality story with very few points that is flagged dead based on misunderstanding or malintent. A story that hits the front page has had many eyeballs upon it and if it is killed from there by organic means, that's the way the system is supposed to normally work. Even when I think the story does not deserve it.

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