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Re:Paypal Horror Story 40k Frozen No Answers by Sir_Substance on Sunday March 12, 2017 @02:16PM (#13852106)
That wisdom is past it's use-by date.

Paypal no longer allows users to make credit card payments without an account[1]. Prior to this, paypal gave you access to an audience of anyone with a credit card. Now that they don't, your low-friction audience is restricted to people with actively used paypal accounts, which is pretty much 15-30 year old guys, and no one else. If you know anything about online sales, you'll know that any increased friction at checkout is a bad thing. Requiring people to make a paypal account at checkout time is probably dropping 20% of all customers and 70% of customers over 50. If you wanted to know why physical shops still exist, that's why.

You get a vastly wider reach with plain old Visa/Mastercard support, because anyone with a credit card can use it, no signup required. All adults have at least a Visa Electron (or regional equivalent), even if they don't have a real credit card, because that's what banks give out by default these days. Hell, most children will have them.

Normal credit card support is fine.

[1] By default at least. Paypals documentation[2] states this is still possible, but I haven't seen it work on any paypal shop for around a year, so either it's broken and they don't care or maybe no one reads the docs?

[2] https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/account-optional

Re:Paypal Horror Story 40k Frozen No Answers by JimDabell on Sunday March 12, 2017 @06:04PM (#13853414)
> Paypal no longer allows users to make credit card payments without an account

> Paypals documentation[2] states this is still possible, but I haven't seen it work on any paypal shop for around a year, so either it's broken and they don't care or maybe no one reads the docs?

From the last time I had to evaluate PayPal as an option, I seem to recall that they only allow people to make payments without an account a certain number of times. So if you have already made a payment through PayPal without a registered account a few times, you will be forced to create an account for any future payments. You've probably made enough payments that you've gone over the limit. I can't remember what the limit is, but I remember being surprised at how low it was.

Re:Paypal Horror Story 40k Frozen No Answers by dhimes on Sunday March 12, 2017 @02:32PM (#13852201)
I did it a couple of days back, so it still works. I have a paypal account for business, but not personal shopping. So I always use paypal simply as a payment processor for personal items.
Re:Paypal Horror Story 40k Frozen No Answers by Negitivefrags on Sunday March 12, 2017 @05:03PM (#13853105)
We use use normal credit card processing through stripe and support paypal as well (as well as a few other options).

40% of payments are still made through paypal.

How many of those customers would have aborted if we didn't support paypal? I don't know, but I'm sure it's a non-zero number.

Re:Paypal Horror Story 40k Frozen No Answers by pietroalbini on Sunday March 12, 2017 @02:45PM (#13852303)
At least from Italy I'm still able to use PayPal without an account, FYI
Re:Paypal Horror Story 40k Frozen No Answers by user5994461 on Sunday March 12, 2017 @04:28PM (#13852899)
Same from France and UK.
Re:Paypal Horror Story 40k Frozen No Answers by Kevin_S on Monday March 13, 2017 @04:40PM (#13862125)
I very recently bought a watch online from a private seller and paid through Paypal without an account. So this appears to still work?