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Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by scholia on Thursday March 09, 2017 @11:48PM (#13836454)
> I think using ad-based monetization

Can you give me some examples of ad-based monetization, please? I'm on Windows 10 Pro with suggestions turned off, so all I've seen is a popup that suggests using Edge.

I don't see this as being particularly different from Google showing me an advert for Chrome every time I do a search....

Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by khedoros1 on Friday March 10, 2017 @12:32AM (#13836612)
> I don't see this as being particularly different from Google showing me an advert for Chrome every time I do a search....

I expect ads when I visit someone's store. I don't expect ads in my home, even if I'm just renting it from someone else. That's the difference that I see.

Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by lewisl9029 on Friday March 10, 2017 @12:02AM (#13836511)
The suggestions that you have turned off, which happen to be opt-out rather than opt-in, and suggest non-Microsoft products, is a pretty blatant example of ad-based monetization, if you don't want to count promoting Microsoft's own products as advertising.
Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by scholia on Friday March 10, 2017 @12:18AM (#13836566)
"Paid advertising" is where you take money from somebody, and the person you take money from controls the content. I don't see how Microsoft suggesting that you try Edge or OneDrive (which are free, and which you already have) fit into that category.
Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by lewisl9029 on Friday March 10, 2017 @02:54AM (#13837057)
I was assuming you were talking about the suggestions that suggest apps on the start menu. Those are non-Microsoft apps. How do you think apps get on that list?
Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by scholia on Friday March 10, 2017 @10:56AM (#13839524)
Never seen one.
Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by lewisl9029 on Friday March 10, 2017 @03:40PM (#13841933)
Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by scholia on Friday March 10, 2017 @06:58PM (#13843201)
OK, many thanks!

Just had a look at my Windows 10 Pro with suggestions turned off and there aren't any ads like that. Or maybe it's because I've never downloaded a game.

However, if I had found one, it doesn't seem like it would be worth too much hysteria.... though I confess that the Chrome adverts on Google's search page actually do annoy me. Slightly.

Of course, I use Google Search much much more often than the Windows 10 start menu ;-)

Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by cm2187 on Friday March 10, 2017 @02:21AM (#13836949)
OneDrive is free if you have very little data. Microsoft is not pushing OneDrive so proactively just in a spirit of sacrifice to its customers.
Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by scholia on Friday March 10, 2017 @10:55AM (#13839515)
You get 5GB free, which is more than most people use, and that's in addition to infinite storage for email. OneDrive also compresses Office documents so they take up less space, and it automatically de-duplicates files.

It's a very useful 5GB, given that its part of the OS and you can save to it like an internal drive.

Of course, in the long run, Microsoft wants people o sign up for Office 365, which provides 1TB per person. That way you get 5TB of storage for peanuts, as well as the full desktop Office and integrated smartphone and tablet apps.

Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by scholia on Friday March 10, 2017 @07:10PM (#13843263)
> You get 5GB free, which is more than most people use, and that's in addition to infinite storage for email.

I double-checked to be sure. My "free" 15GB of storage in Gdrive is actually 0GB (ie zero, nada, nothing) because I have almost 15GB of email in Gmail.

The same amount of email in Outlook still leaves 5GB free in OneDrive, for new users. (I have 25GB because Microsoft grandfathered my earlier storage.)

Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by cm2187 on Friday March 10, 2017 @11:01AM (#13839570)
That's a few days of photos when on holidays
Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by scholia on Friday March 10, 2017 @11:26AM (#13839748)
For a very tiny proportion of the population....
Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by cm2187 on Friday March 10, 2017 @11:50AM (#13839926)
With people shooting videos in 4k with their iphones? And what about music? 5GB is tiny if you save anything else than text files.
Re:Windows 10 Tip: Turn Off File Explorer Advertising by scholia on Friday March 10, 2017 @07:05PM (#13843232)
If you're shooting 4K with an iPhone then obvioulsy you'll use iCloud (also 5GB) not OneDrive. Good luck with that.

If you're a normal person then you'll probably use 200MB (my wife) to 1.5GB (me) shooting jpegs. I checked my folders.

If you think 5GB of OneDrive is a suitable option for a pro/semipro/serious photographer shooting RAW then I suspect you may have more serious problems than OneDive...