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Re:The Tenacity of Tech Recruiters by Swizec on Thursday March 09, 2017 @06:55PM (#13835029)
Have you considered that you might not be a fit for companies where you are applying? For example, I would bomb at any enterprisey company, and I do really well in small early stage startups.

I could apply to hundreds of corporate jobs and I'm pretty sure I'd get none of them. Whereas for small startups I have historically rejected more offers than I've taken.

In fact, I have never gotten an offer from any company bigger than 30 or so employees. And yet my inbox gets at least 1 recruiter spam per week.

But that's besides the point. If there are very many engineers out there who aren't getting jobs within, say, 1 year of actively starting to look. And if there are very many companies out there that can't hire engineers within, say, 1 year of actively starting to look. Then there's something wrong with market fluidity in one way or another.

That said, I don't think I've ever heard of a competent engineer who can't land a job within a year of actively seeking.

Then again, I've heard that if you aren't doing anything useful for over a year, your prospects start to dwindle because people wonder what's your deal and see it as a red flag.

Re:The Tenacity of Tech Recruiters by rnovak on Thursday March 09, 2017 @11:31PM (#13836388)
> Software engineers have a NEGATIVE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.

> land a job within a year of actively seeking

A year lead time is what a negative rate looks like?

Re:The Tenacity of Tech Recruiters by Swizec on Friday March 10, 2017 @12:53AM (#13836689)
If you keep applying for jobs you're not a fit for? Yes.

I'd say 1 year is a high upper bound though. Specifics really depend.

But here's some general stats: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-biggest-predictor-o...

That link says that with a bachelor's degree or more, 17% are unemployed for 6 months or less, and 19% for a year or more. That gives a really big percent for people between 6 months and a year.

The reason I brought up the 1 year number was more to point out that there's a big difference between "I can't get a job [at all]" and "I can't get a job I really love as quickly as I want".

I mean, it doesn't matter what the unemployment rate for software engineers is, if you want a job as an AI expert at Google and all you've ever done is building simple Wordpress sites for your buddies.