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Re:Healthy California Act: proposal to make findings about s... by refurb on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @08:51PM (#13826107)
I'm not arguing that many people would be better off. I'm arguing that many people would have to lower their expectations around healthcare.

There is a very big chunk of the US that has very expensive (that they can afford) and very good healthcare.

Re:Healthy California Act: proposal to make findings about s... by hackuser on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @09:03PM (#13826200)
Couldn't they still pay extra and get it? Can't you do that in Canada?
Re:Healthy California Act: proposal to make findings about s... by refurb on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @09:46PM (#13826479)
Nope! Physicians either have to be a part of the public system 100% or 0%. No doing both.

As a result, there are very few private options for healthcare in Canada.

Re:Healthy California Act: proposal to make findings about s... by wahern on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @11:56PM (#13827091)
A family member of mine is an orthopedic surgeon in Vancouver. Several years ago he split his time between a teaching hospital and a private practice, doing knee surgeries at both. At the hospital waiting times were typical. At his private practice waiting times were very short, on the order of days, I think. IIRC, the way surgeons get around the rules is by charging by the hour, not by the procedure. And it's completely out-of-pocket. For the kind of cookie-cutter, out-patient operations he specialized in it worked very well for him and his well-heeled patients.
Re:Healthy California Act: proposal to make findings about s... by tempestn on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @10:00PM (#13826556)
Right. As I mentioned in my post, there is a concern that allowing otherwise would erode the public system. Perhaps it's justified; I don't know. Also, those who can afford it can travel to the US or elsewhere if they want to pay for services, which reduces the motivation to create a private alternative here, although it turns out in practice that happens rarely. This is a good overview, also covering the differences in wait times between the systems: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/fact-checking-tru...