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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by watwut on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @04:07AM (#13819018)
People go into relationship with expectation of those being long term. People are expected to create ties to them and leaving your husband/boyfriend/wife/girlfriend is oftentimes seen as wrong - you are supposed to be loyal.

It is not nearly the same with companies.

Also the issue here is not that they accepted being abused, it is the suspicion that they contributed to toxicity. It might be unfair to quite a few of them, but it is still very different.

Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by Bartweiss on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @10:39AM (#13820937)
> You are supposed to be loyal... It is not nearly the same with companies.

I'm not defending the primary analogy, but this is bizarre to me. As I grew up, many different people told me about the importance of loyalty to coworkers (and by implication employers). I heard about how you have to show you're willing to stick around for the long haul, dedicate yourself to a business, and suck it up when things are bad. At least if you're the one suffering, lots of people will tell you to stay with a company regardless. The phrase "paying your dues" is all about this.

Yeah, 20-somethings and software devs are both known for being a bit more mercenary than that. I think that s a good thing, since it encourages companies to act responsibly.

But there is still a strong culture that expects loyalty to employers, even when they're treating you poorly. It's not universal, but for some people it comes from most of the people they care about.