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Re:To fix L.A.'s traffic, we need tolls by memco on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @08:51PM (#13817125)
> The line made famous by clueless that everywhere in LA takes 20 minutes is completely true, with the caveat being, so long as you don't drive during traffic.

Another way to interpret this is: nowhere you want to go is ever < 20 min. from your current location. This includes places like grocery stores or other neighborhood locales because even though they are close, traffic can still make a half-mile commute take 20 min.

Re:To fix L.A.'s traffic, we need tolls by sokoloff on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @07:48AM (#13819836)
If you have a half-mile commute that takes 20 minutes by car and you regularly do that commute by car, I don't think that traffic is the biggest problem in your life.
Re:To fix L.A.'s traffic, we need tolls by spoonie on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @10:04AM (#13820674)
You can walk a half mile in 20 minutes, never mind biking. Why do people drive that short of distances in CA? Even if it's for groceries, bring a backpack and shop more frequently.