Re:Toronto Is in a Housing Bubble
by verelo on Sunday March 05, 2017 @05:48PM
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If there are Waterloo grads looking for less than 80k for their first job (and they're not idiots), send them my way. I currently have 7 open developer positions I'm struggling to fill (and i'm more than happy to pay market rates for any level of experience!)
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Re:Toronto Is in a Housing Bubble
by randomdata on Sunday March 05, 2017 @06:24PM
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What do you consider market rates to be? As a Canadian developer who isn't starving, but open to opportunity, it's always difficult for me to justify the time commitment required to explore those opportunities for a secret amount of money.
Depends on a few things, experience, job (or internship) history and what tools you want to / are open to work with. Attitude is also key (I really hate "rockstar" jerks).
I'd say the most common range I see new grads start at is between 65-80, sometimes 85-90 but that's rare, with the right experience and attitude later in life I regularly see people ranging from 100-150+ without any questions being raised.
It's complicated but at the end of the day you're worth what you can justify. To me this is a question of how much I expect you can realistically contribute, which will not be the same for every place you interview due to the factors I mentioned above.
You'd do better hiring 3 people at CA$160k (starting salary in SF for a fresh Waterloo grad) than 7 people at CA$80k. Even if the 10X developer is a myth, the 2X is very real and you're turning them away.