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Re:Is java dead for startups? by silkodyssey on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @06:58PM (#1378927)
The play framework sounds like something you'd be interested in. It abandons the Java conventions for a more rails like experience. http://www.playframework.org/
Re:Is java dead for startups? by runevault on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @07:56PM (#1379060)
You can use Play! with scala as well, so you get a good framework AND a more interesting language at the same time ;)
Re:Is java dead for startups? by anatari on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @07:12PM (#1378969)
Yeah, never heard of it until now. If I ever venture out into Java land again, I'll have to give it a better look. How does it compare to Grails?
Re:Is java dead for startups? by silkodyssey on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @07:32PM (#1379009)
I've never looked at grails so I can't offer an opinion but I have some links that may be helpful to you. The first is a HN discussion on the play framework and the second a discussion on google groups about the differences between the two frameworks.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=898738

http://groups.google.com/group/play-framework/browse_thread/...

Re:Is java dead for startups? by mnml_ on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @07:10PM (#1378966)
playframework is way better than rails in my opinion
Re:Is java dead for startups? by buddycasino on Wednesday May 26, 2010 @10:21AM (#1380327)
Watched the screencast. First thought when I saw 'SomeClass extends Controller': this will be hard to evolve.

Tapestry 5 has done away with this and does not require interfaces or superclasses anymore in order to avoid breaking the API in future releases, they should have learned from that.

Re:Is java dead for startups? by sandGorgon on Wednesday May 26, 2010 @01:37AM (#1379609)
No comments about the Lift framework ? FourSquare uses it