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Re:Damian Conway on Perl and its future by mst on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @10:48AM (#1377552)
There are more CPAN authors than ever before. There are more CPAN uploads than ever before. I used to give out a couple commit bits a week to projects I'm involved in; now we've got half a dozen people with access to do that giving out at least one a week (and this in spite of the fact that we're getting at least that many new contributors through github as well).

Overall Perl use may have declined, but good, effective, maintainable Perl use by people who're involved in the community is on the rise - and that's the group that I'm a part of, the people who write Perl as a robust, team-oriented, scalable production language rather than the PERL scripters of old (and my thoughts go out to the PHP and ruby communities who seem to have acquired a similar breed of idiot this time round the hype mill).

Re:Damian Conway on Perl and its future by whopa on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @01:40PM (#1378024)
There's a lot of CPAN activity, but my impression is that a lot of it seems confined to only a handful of problem domains. There's tons of choice with date libraries, or OO frameworks, or unit test frameworks, but other languages have solutions for that too.

For all the talk of CPAN being so killer, there actually isn't much there that other languages don't also have. There may be more choice in implementation of a fairly common concept, but that's the Perl way. The "aha, I'll use Perl because this CPAN module implements exactly what I want, and nobody else does" moment rarely happens.

Re:Damian Conway on Perl and its future by expeditious on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @10:25PM (#1379333)
> There's a lot of CPAN activity, but my impression is that a lot of it seems confined to only a handful of problem domains.

You can see a list of recent uploads here: http://www.cpan.org/RECENT.html

> There's tons of choice with date libraries,

Most everyone uses DateTime.

> or OO frameworks,

Nowadays choosing this one is simple: Moose

> or unit test frameworks

Test::More is pretty standard.

> For all the talk of CPAN being so killer, there actually isn't much there that other languages don't also have.

That is approximately the opposite of my experiences with the CPAN.